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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Point 1

    I'm not sure specifically where Ric pulled that one from. Perhaps you should ask him? There is evidence open formats is the way governments are moving though. For example Belgium.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/27/belgium_odf/

    Points 2

    This came up further on in the thread I pointed you at.

    http://www.edugeek.net/index.php?nam...ic&p=8870#8870
    http://www.edugeek.net/index.php?nam...ic&p=9015#9015

    Obviously I cannot see into the future, so I don't know what will become of Star/Open/MS Office in the long term.

    Point 3

    Read the BECTA report on OSS in Schools. I believe a section on page 8 deals with curriculum delivery.

    http://www.becta.org.uk/corporate/pu...l_report18.pdf

    As for point 4.

    At the moment, most migrations seem to be government departments and institutions. There's plenty of examples of successful migrations on the OO.org case studies pages.

    http://www.openoffice.org/product/studies.html

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    I have just downloaded Ubuntu and I cannot even install to the HDD because it needs to access the Internet!

    This would be fine except at the school I am working at today proxy authentication is enabled and Ubuntu does not like proxy authentication.

    In fact I have had issues with quite a few flavours of Linux and proxy authentication and yes I know I just need to put

    Acquire::http::Proxy "http://usernameassword@proxyort"
    Acquire::ftp::Proxy "ftp://usernameassword@proxyort"

    in the apt.conf file but if you cannot install the software, how do you insert these lines in a config file its a catch 22.

    I think Vista will install without an Internet connection, maybe I will use that instead!

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    I know Debian and SUSE sometimes come as mini install CD which install the bulk of the distro via FTP download.

    However I don't recall coming across this with UBUNTU. Like a Windows install you should get the option to delay somethings till later.

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Use the alternate CD. Using the text install, it'll ask you for the proxy information.

    Alternatively, you're free to drop to a command line prompt at any time with Ctrl-Alt-F2. You can then edit the apt.conf yourself.

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    I did have a look but I don't think apt.conf exists when you are running from the Live CD.

    I have just found the Alternate CD I will give that a go tommorow.

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrforgetful
    Vista because I'm a Micro$oft wh0re!!!!1!1


    I voted vista too... because my friend likes linux too much so i have to do opposite :P

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    I've installed edgy and dapper from DVD without it forcing an internet connection. It asked if I wanted to check but I just said no because the machine was stand alone.

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    So you dont have to register it later on the internet?

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Register? What is this 'register' you speak of?

    The only thing Ubuntu needs the internet for is (by default) getting updates via Apt (and, the hardware detection reporting tool thing - not sure if that's in Ubuntu any more though )

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Extended repositories to get the "cool" packages that are rather grey in the legal department require the internet too. Things like DVD support, xvid, writeable NTFS are not on official repositories but people has published them to what they call Univers repositories and you can apt get them from there.

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Extended repositories to get the "cool" packages that are rather grey in the legal department require the internet too. Things like DVD support, xvid, writeable NTFS are not on official repositories but people has published them to what they call Univers repositories and you can apt get them from there.
    Have a look at automatix http://www.getautomatix.com/ as a fast way of installing other proprietry bits

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    I voted Vista, simply because I am a Windows expert, know very little about Linux and because the majority of working environments use Windows.

    Having said that, I am an avid fan of Open Source and hope that someday Linux can become just as popular as Windows.

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Eh, I voted Linux...really can't be bothered to put my point across as it's one of those things that will never get done, there will be no 100% Linux Users and there will not be 100% Windows users, so why argue whats the best?

    I have used Linux for 6 years, and it works...enough said.

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Especially for the naysayers. Here's a case study of a UK high school using a 100% Linux solution.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/...gh_school.html

    Where's Orwell High School on the league tables I wonder?
    I notice that this '100%' Linux solution includes a Windows 2003 Terminal Server...

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    Re: Windows Vista or Ubuntu Linux?

    Due to the single-minded nature of some software creators it obviously wasn't possible.

    Some proprietary teaching packages have no direct equivalent in the Open Source world at the moment and some of the teaching packs in use were based on Microsoft software so support for this legacy software was also important.
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    Whilst between them those meet by far the greatest part of the needs of the students, there is inevitably also a need for access to software that will only run in a Microsoft environment. To provide access to those legacy applications, a server running Microsoft Terminal Server 2003 is used, with the students using a RDP client from the Linux desktop. The students' files are accessible in both environments. An example of a desktop accessing Visual Basic is shown below. Naturally Windows and Linux screens can be (and are) run simultaneously side-by-side on any of the workstations. The image shows a web browser window running under Linux overlaid with a terminal server session to Windows.

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