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    if you mean you use lan ranger then it doesn't work with vista yet! they keep putting back the update

    mark

    woops looks like its out tomorrow http://www.rangersuite.com/products_...on/rfn/version

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    PCs should be bought with Vista Business or Ultimate Licences, then downgraded to XP Pro until you do the full campus wide change. No mixing of XP and Vista please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickJones View Post
    Personally I like Vista; I have it in my office and at home and wouldn't want to go back to XP on either, but deploying it across the network is a different animal altogether. Unless you have a specific reason to go with Vista (which you clearly don't), then I would get the PCs with XP running on a Vista Business Downgrade licence.

    That way, you have the PCs out there as quickly as possible, no user re-training issues and no hardware compatibility to worry about, but are a step closer to being licensed for it when you do make the step. A Vista rollout (or a rollout of anything else of magnitude) is not something to be rushed into.

    If you are planning on going to Vista in the future, I would get one Vista PC into your office now, or on a test network if you have one, so you can familiarise yourself with it and check your applications and hardware at your leisure.
    i'm with Nick on this one. just taken delivery of a load of vista business lap/desktop's and am preparing to downgarde them to xp pro. i am keeping one back as vista to suss out and check against existing edu software. Already found that deamontools insn't compatible with no fix as yet, plus there is an issue with home directory re-direction via GPO that appears to be a vista 'feature' .

    once server 2008 is out and bedded in i believe would be the time to consider rolling out vista but by getting the business license and downgrading i'm covered for future upgrades.

    anyone know of any issue's in the downgrade process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkwellstu View Post
    anyone know of any issue's in the downgrade process?

    Stu
    Not done it myself, but I'm told you need to watch out that you have got the XP drivers before you start.

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    Within a corporate/educational environment, unless you have a need to upgrade I don't see the need to put the time, effort and money into it until it's at least SP1 as has already been mentioned. The other thing is...XP works and frankly, does so quite well...why the need to upgrade?

    It's a similar situation with Office 2007. "New shiney things...want them now!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterW View Post
    Err he doesnt say 2 x 2MB ram 2x 2MB is the cache on the Pentium D 945 CPU.
    haha oh yeh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joedetic View Post
    It's a similar situation with Office 2007. "New shiney things...want them now!"
    I disagree - the lay-out changes in Office 2007 aren't just cosmetic (unlike those in Vista), they offer a much quicker method of finding the more advanced functions, especially the ones which you know exist but can't remember where to find.

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    This is a subject thats going to pick up pace this year.

    Ranger have not had any Vista compatability until today 01/02/2008.
    Of course this will only be available to Ramger users with a current software maintenance contract in place, everyone else will have to pay large sums of money to play catch up me thinks as many people have failed to renew their support due to the fact that no significant enhancements have been seen for years!

    Microsoft are playing hardball with the OEM's and are insisting they stop shipping XP options by June this year and support for XP and patch updates will cease in April 2009.

    So it looks like this year everyone will need to seriously consider what they are going to do!

    Time is running out, a bit like the Tax Deadline!

    This summer Server 2008, Vista and Office 2007 for everyone!
    Throw away all of your old software, the merry go round is about to start!

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    upport for XP and patch updates will cease in April 2009.
    Extended security support ends 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    Not done it myself, but I'm told you need to watch out that you have got the XP drivers before you start.
    Image one computer with the standard school image
    Install missing drivers
    Take new image
    Image all other new computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrforgetful View Post
    Image one computer with the standard school image
    Install missing drivers
    Take new image
    Image all other new computers.
    Thanks Mrforgetful, i am not going to assume that the recovery disks etc have the necessary disks; is there a single place where i can download all necessary drivers as a zip or collective download?

    Stu.

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    It depends who manufactured your computer.

    I download mine from the HP website.

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    there Novatech boxes ...

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    Ahh.

    That's where brands really do make up for the extra cost.

    All I can think is that you ask them to bundle all the disks from the hardware.

    Other than that hope XP picks it all up ok?

    Could download a program to scan the hardware and then trawl the websites. Could be quite a pain though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrforgetful View Post
    Ahh.

    That's where brands really do make up for the extra cost.

    All I can think is that you ask them to bundle all the disks from the hardware.

    Other than that hope XP picks it all up ok?

    Could download a program to scan the hardware and then trawl the websites. Could be quite a pain though...
    Mmmm i agree, when i ordered the boxes i explained my intention to downgrade and they said that all necessary disks etc would be with them. it turns out that there are no disks as they create a recovery partition.

    Watch this space ....

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