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    Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    Which Vista Edition should we be using in school? Our LEA don't have a position on it yet.

    I need to upgrade two laptops from Vista Home Premium to something that'll join a domain.

    The nice guy at Pugh told me that the MS School Agreement included Vista Enterprise. Do we need that, or will Business do?

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    I'd suggest none. However if you really insist on doing this then the answer is either Vista Business or Vista Enterprise depending on if you have a Volume License agreement or not. There isn't a massive different between Business and Enterprise.

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    I'd suggest none.
    Thanks! I knew someone would say that. I'd prefer the laptops to have an 'accident'.

    I wish I had a choice. The laptops I've been presented with won't downgrade to XP because of lack of drivers. It seems manufacturers aren't encouraged to make XP drivers, so Vista (as a MS OS) will be increasingly hard to avoid soon.

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    If anyone's interested, I've just found this. The differences are minute.

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    Out of interest, what is the hardware in the laptop that does not have XP drivers. So everyone else knows to avoid it.

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    I would agree None lol but to answer question i would say use Vista Buissness.

    also yh what hardware is in the laptop so i know to avoid it cheers

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    We had some HP nx7300 here and the hp site had more vista drivers then xp. Theres still 1 unknown device which we cant find drivers for.

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    The best Vista edition for schools in my oppinion is XP Pro

    Sad, but true! Vista will be staying off my network for the forseeable future.

    Andrew

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    RM supply Vista Business when you ask for it. Personally, I quite like it, but it doesn't offer any advantage from the point-of-view of our students. As I see it, they just wouldn't benefit from any of the new features, so for us it will be a little while yet before we upgrade (unless Capita do anything nasty like pull XP support really quickly).

    What's the hardware which doesn't have XP drivers?

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Butuz
    The best Vista edition for schools in my oppinion is XP Pro

    Sad, but true! Vista will be staying off my network for the forseeable future.

    Andrew
    With newer hardware and application upgrades likely to target vista specifically, not to mention support, it's going to be increasingly difficult not to switch to Vista in certain areas at some stage within the next year to 18 months.

    I think XP SP3 will likely help admins put off making any decisions for several more months - but after January OEM's will stop shipping XP all together - not a problem if like us you use your Volume win xp upgrade.

    But unless I'm mistaken you cannot license-wise install any xp upgrade version on PC's that ship with a later version (vista). Which isn't a problem for older PC's but anything new you buy after January you won't be able to install your volume licensed xp. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.

    Also, while many large companies are very slow and methodical about upgrading/version changes for good reason - schools aren't in the same position. Plus even large companies will need to upgrade their NT/2000 servers at some point because they generally take out software assurance and support from microsoft which will eventually end if it hasn't already done so - same with XP although EoS is still many years away.

    Windows Server 2008, IIS 7, IE 7, Office 2007 and Sharepoint 2007 will be/are too irresistible not to implement - same can't be said for Vista, but it's killer feature is it's improved security over xp plus new and interesting deployment features for the enterprise. For that reason i'll be switching by this time next year.

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    I'll go with Business.

    I don't have the laptops in front of me right now amd can't remember what they were. (At the time I just wanted to get them out of my sight). They'll be back soon, though.

    I do remember that although they were different brands and cases, the device manager showed almost identical internal hardware.

    The missing drivers were for chipset, graphics and a few other things. XP would run on them, but very slowly. Vista ran at a decent speed, as it happens.

    I don't think it matters, anyway. This is a sign of things to come. I believe that in a few months most new hardware (especially laptops) will be Vista only. XP won't be supported by the manufacturers. :cry:

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by apeo
    We had some HP nx7300 here and the hp site had more vista drivers then xp. Theres still 1 unknown device which we cant find drivers for.
    Get the nx7400 same drivers, took them 3 weeks to tell me that, I'd tried all the earlier model drivers, never thought to try the later model!

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    Oh great, people are stopping making drivers for XP too now!?? thats an outrage!.

    Havent they started reprinting XP discs because they were shocked at how many people ordered their shiny new laptop with XP and not vista? :P.

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    I expect there will still be 'business' PC/laptop models from big name suppliers that will have XP driver support for a long time to come. I don't see big business moving to Vista anytime soon.

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    Re: Which Vista edition is best for schools?

    Athlough the drivers may not be available on the manufacturers site if you scout around you should be able to find the xp drivers for most hardware (its just a pain).
    but anything new you buy after January you won't be able to install your volume licensed xp.
    Thye have extended XP availability to OEM's to June/July I believe.

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