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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    Windows is becoming a niche market
    Not really. Microsoft's percentage has shrunk because there are simply more devices being sold today than there was a decade ago. 95% of 1 billion is 950,000,000, whereas 19.3% of 2,964,783,000 (total devices shipped in 2017 according to Gartner) is 572,203,119. That's a decrease of 39.768% over a 15 year period, but still a huge amount of computers, smartphones and tablets by anyones measure!

    2002: Computers reach one billion mark « BBC News
    2012: Worldwide shipment of all internet connected devices grew 29.1 per cent, with over 1 billion units sold in 2012.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawns View Post
    Whoever thought putting Metro, a touch screen designed interface, into a Windows Server product deserves a slap round the face.
    Indeed!
    install Classic Shell

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    Quote Originally Posted by detjo View Post
    Indeed!
    install Classic Shell
    Why do you need a GUI at all? Remote management tools FTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Why do you need a GUI at all? Remote management tools FTW.
    not much help if the network cards died

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    it makes sense for server os to reflect whats on the desktop
    Indeed as much as I hate the GUI of both. They try and keep it likewise so when using Remote Desktop Services a familiar look to end users. Windows 7/2008 R2 and now Windows 8 /Server 2012.

    The GUI still takes a bit of getting used to on server

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    Aren't MS considering ending the Server GUI line soon anyway?
    With 2012 the default option when you install is Server CORE, and then "Server with a GUI" (SWAG). Even then SWAG has the ability to drop in and out of CORE.

    With most of MS Server apps now switching to PowerShell I doubt it will be long.

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    I think the new UI works well on the sever OS... Admittedly it wasn't all smiles from the start, but after a few weeks I found the UI provides much quicker access to install services/ software.

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    They'll need to kick a lot of software makers into shape to do that. For example, Intel and their nic driver utilities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    not much help if the network cards died
    Then use the CLI on the physical box to troubleshoot it......

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    I actually decided to stick with 2008 R2 for our domain upgrade because of this awful interface on the server edition, despite a few welcome improvements.

    I wonder what windows 8.1 will bring to server 2012. Hopefully they have listened.

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    Just a thought.

    Windows GUI is by design inherently customisable, and with the advent of remote management tools and powershell catering for both command line users and those who prefer point and click, surely we now have more ability to make the machine/ environment reflect our own needs.

    We can now have a standardised experience 'out of the box' across devices which we then tailor to our own design.

    Maybe it is the nature of the beast that we resist change, and this prevents us from appreciating the opportunities.

    I for one love it and will continue to tweak it :0).

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    Quote Originally Posted by forrager View Post
    Just a thought.

    Windows GUI is by design inherently customisable, and with the advent of remote management tools and powershell catering for both command line users and those who prefer point and click, surely we now have more ability to make the machine/ environment reflect our own needs.

    We can now have a standardised experience 'out of the box' across devices which we then tailor to our own design.

    Maybe it is the nature of the beast that we resist change, and this prevents us from appreciating the opportunities.

    I for one love it and will continue to tweak it :0).
    Out of all of the Desktop Environments that I've used I can confidently say that MSWindows is inherently the least customisable of the lot.
    The Good thing about the Microsoft approach is that it has a common look and feel across all Windows operating systems, bar win8. Hence it's easy to pick up and use without having to re-gig everything for different default installs like you have to do with Gnome,KDE,Enlightenment,ICEWM,XFCE etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    Out of all of the Desktop Environments that I've used I can confidently say that MSWindows is inherently the least customisable of the lot.
    The Good thing about the Microsoft approach is that it has a common look and feel across all Windows operating systems, bar win8. Hence it's easy to pick up and use without having to re-gig everything for different default installs like you have to do with Gnome,KDE,Enlightenment,ICEWM,XFCE etc etc
    I am also a fan of other OSes too (especially the free ones). However, the issue is not the extent to which it is customisable but the fact that people are unhappy with the OOBE of the desktop environment, so perhaps they should change it as required, which is facilitated by MS providing the ability to do so within the OS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    Out of all of the Desktop Environments that I've used I can confidently say that MS Windows is inherently the least customisable of the lot.
    Less customizable than Ash in ChromeOS? I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Less customizable than Ash in ChromeOS? I don't think so.
    Never used it. Windows desktop environment isn't customisable at all compared to the others I listed. Just simple things like adding more desktops seems to be an absolute no go on any ms windows versions I've tried.



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