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My current setup is ...
15th June 2010, 08:41 AM #1
Windows deployment services questions
I feel its time I moved away from ghost and started to use windows deployment services.
My current setup is a mixture of server 2008/2003 and the workstations are all xp pro sp3
I would like to know the following answers if any one can help
Does windows deployment services have to go on a DC?
Can I deploy XP sp3?
How do you integrate all the latest ms updates in the xp image file?
Am I correct in saying Application deployment services is used along side WDS to push software out?
OK im new to this, so my questions are probably some what lame but I've looked all over the net and I can not get a straight forward answer followed by Howto's.
If any one can help me and point me in the correct direction I will greatfully appreciate it.
P.S Im not intrested in using software such as FOG etc
15th June 2010, 08:50 AM #2
before you get to involved look at MDT , the microsoft deployment toolkit. Its how you create the images to be deployed, it contains its own deployment method as well so you may not need WDS. It will allow you to create an answerfile for a windows install and will allow you to add packages to deploy software.
Thanks to strawberry from:
15th June 2010, 09:02 AM #3
Puting the day aside for development, so I will have a good read
15th June 2010, 10:23 AM #4
eh.. Do I also need to install microsoft system centre 2007?
15th June 2010, 11:02 AM #5
You don't need System Centre, firstly!
I built a WDS server about 18 months ago....got it working perfectly. Since then, I have upgraded the server to 2008 R2, and installed Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) as well as Windows System Image Manager. These have all run well, but will get a proper workout over the coming months, as new kit comes in.
We started off with Vista builds, but due to technical failures with the O/S, we moved over to Windows 7, as soon as we could.
If you want to PM me, I'm happy to give you some pointers!
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GAS (16th June 2010), PEO (15th June 2010)
15th June 2010, 11:15 AM #6
I started out just using WDS to capture and deploy images which I had created and sysprepped.
I've now moved onto using MDT2010 as well where you can import all the drivers for your pcs so as they are having XP SP3 installed they also get all of their drivers.
The MDT 2010 light touch image is booted from the WDS server.
It doesn't need to be on a DC and I would recommend that is isn't installed on a DC.
Windows updates can be done however you choose there is a script within MDT 2010 to do it but that doesn't work through a proxy, I use logistix packs which I download to the WDS server and then have a script to run the install after the image is deployed.
15th June 2010, 12:02 PM #7
OK information is a little all over the place for me.
Im going to set it up on A Server 2008 box, what needs installing and in what order?
15th June 2010, 01:13 PM #8
Just install MDT2010 and it will prompt you to download and install all the stuff you need, it automates lots of stuff and is the most sensible way to do Windows Deployments over multiple types of machines with a reasonable amount of automation. Even SCCM uses chunks of MDT in the background and adds a bunch more tools and complexity for that bit more automation.
15th June 2010, 06:13 PM #9
find a decent old box or a vm, install mdt, it'll ask for a few other downloads including waik which is a bit hefty. From there you then import your operating systems, and configure your unattend.txt file (loads on here can provide examples). you then import your apps and add the command line syntax for installing them ( or use a gui for office) , most of the details are on appdeploy ( this also means you have command line suntax to hand so can use something like psexec to run the commandline on a remote machine, thereby installing an app remotely). Again, we can help with that on here. You can then generate a cd to boot from on the new pc, this can either have all the info on it or can call back to the server for the files. then you select your os (or image) and which applications you want to install.
From there you can then to things like capture images etc etc, the only thing wds really adds to this is the ability to pxe boot and use multicast so far as i can see.
edit:// you also import the drivers en mass, so no more fiddling with the sysprep inf file!
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16th June 2010, 07:23 AM #10
I would start with the fundamentals. Setup a WDS server, get it working with DHCP and pxe boot for your clients, import your capture and boot images from Windows 7 source disk. Once that is done download and install WAIK, can't remember if it includes Windows SIM but am sure it does. After you have mastered those you could graduate onto MDT2010 if you feel a need to.
16th June 2010, 08:19 AM #11
If you have a spare 2008 R2 server, you can even configure WDS to work in standalone mode.
Originally Posted by PEO
16th June 2010, 09:11 AM #12
Is it worth setting up an SCCM server for deploying Windows 7 and then further updates or will WDS and MDT do the job for less money?
What are people using for deploying updates in windows 7?
16th June 2010, 09:16 AM #13
16th June 2010, 09:44 AM #14
Im starting to put the the puzzel togeather now. by the looks of things I'm thinking about using SCCM
16th June 2010, 09:47 AM #15
The only problem being you have to pay for SCCM and I don't think it comes cheap. If you are a school and have less than say 1000 pc's you only need WDS/WAIK and if you want you could use MDT2010 but is not essential which are all free.
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