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Windows Server 2008 Thread, No tape backup support without 3rd-party software in Technical; Please justify your statement .... As Novabackup does SQl, Exchange, Open files and Disaster Recovery... So why is it not ...
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    Please justify your statement ....

    As Novabackup does SQl, Exchange, Open files and Disaster Recovery... So why is it not as good as Backup exec ?
    I stand corrected. Didn't know.

    Feel better now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmonkey View Post
    Sata Dat drives have been around for a while. It's a HP StorageWorks device.

    But it certainly isn't SCSI. Thats a swearword to me!! :P
    I aint seen a SATA one, I've seen IDE, USB2.0, and SCSI but no SATA units, I haven't even spotted them on the HP site, you sure its SATA?

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    100% right about it being SATA - although I'm 100% wrong about it being HP. It's a Quantum.

    http://www.quantum.com/Products/Tape...T72/Index.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    I aint seen a SATA one, I've seen IDE, USB2.0, and SCSI but no SATA units, I haven't even spotted them on the HP site, you sure its SATA?
    they've also got a SAS version of the drive on the website. My guess is if it's a new model it's the SAS version.

    Quantum i think do a SATA dat drive, and it looks like the hp drives could be OEM'ed from Quantum, but that doesn't explain why there's no mention of a SATA version on the hp website, unless it's an older model.

    Didn't realise they did usb aswell - here i was stuck with scsi for tape connectivity. Looks like i need to join the 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmonkey View Post
    I stand corrected. Didn't know.

    Feel better now?

    Sorry... wasn't being mean...

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    Im fairly sure the HP ones are HP rather than re-baged. The freecom ones are HP ones (I've had them before as they were at one point nearly 150 cheaper than the HP ones!) But I could be wrong. I hadn't spotted they were doing a SAS one but it would make sense as they are moving more of the ProLiants to SAS now instead of SCSI.

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    The freecom ones are HP ones (I've had them before as they were at one point nearly 150 cheaper than the HP ones!) But I could be wrong.
    No your not wrong, spot on actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterW View Post
    No your not wrong, spot on actually.
    Good stuff Begs the question why do places sell both Freecom and HP ones that are identical appart from the price

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    Good stuff Begs the question why do places sell both Freecom and HP ones that are identical appart from the price
    Goes to show that it's all about the brand that attracts a lot of people

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    Went to a Server 2008 workshop late last year. The chap hosting it is an MVP and runs his own consultancy company. Upon raising this issue with him, he simply said it's tough. Businesses should get with the times and use modern backup methods.

    So basically, MS don't care if you are a small business that doesn't have a lot of money, i.e. a primary school.

    I'm no fan of tape backups, but this is narrow-minded thinking from the Redmond Beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveMC View Post
    Indeed it does, - my viewpoint on this one is from the perspective of some of our primary schools, who are running SIMS on a server that cost around 1200, with an OS that cost them 50 (or thereabouts). To suddenly have an extra 375 stuck on for Backup Exec (with possibly another 300 or so for the SQL agent) makes it all rather more expensive.

    Stephen
    I'd tell them not to bother with the SQL agent. scheduled batch files to stop and restart the sql service has proved very reliable in my LEA.

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    this is bad for us as our LEA have said that we can only back up the SIMS data to a tape drive, we are not allowed to use a CD, or portable hard drive.

    anyone know if there is any freebie software that allows you to backup to to tape??

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    @button_ripple - You could try writing to your authority and pointing out that Windows Server 2008 (without third party software) no longer supports backup to tape.

    There's no immediate rush to upgrade to 2008 server for at least another year, by which time your authority should of updated their backup policies for schools.

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    Tape backup

    Apologies in advance for naivety-I'm only a drone.
    Can't you just keep running your old server as a backing-up server?

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    People still use tapes We moved towards hard disk backups about 3 years ago!

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