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    New server - what do?!

    Bought a new server and installed Server 2008 on it...thing is, I don't know what to do next.

    I have a 2003 server as the DC currently, it provides DHCP, and has a separate drive in it with shares on, kids work etc.

    What's the best method to bring all the stuff from the old server over to the new one, with minimal downtime and fuss? Ideally the new server will just be called the same as the old one, then all the shortcuts around the school will still work.

    Thanks!

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    HI

    Start by not naming them as the same thing.

    Prepare a plan of what you want to move over.

    Give your new server a static ip address.

    Do a full backup of the old server

    Prepare the forest and domain. Installing an Additional Domain Controller

    Join the new server to the domain

    Promote the new server to be a domain controller. How to promote Windows Server 2008 machine to domain controller – step-by-step guide | Windows Server 2008 and Microsoft virtualization blog

    Move shares onto new server by restoring from backups and share the correct folder with the correct permissions.

    Change group policy, scripts, and shortcuts to look at new server. Change any deployed packages to look at new shares.

    Make sure the new domain controller is a dns server.

    Backup the dhcp on the old server and restore it on the new server. How to move a DHCP database from a computer that is running Windows Server 2003 to Windows Server 2008

    PLus allow enough time

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    If the new server doesn't atleast end up with the same name, half the shortcuts, home areas etc won't work.

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    If you name them the same thing when they are both on then neither one will function properly as the DNS names will be the same. Causing your shortcuts to stopping working. You can call it something else and then possibly have a DNS entry pointing the old server name to the IP of the new server.

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    Move to DFS, then you can move which server the files are on easily. There are microsoft tools for migrating file shares etc too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavhc View Post
    Move to DFS, then you can move which server the files are on easily. There are microsoft tools for migrating file shares etc too.
    This!

    DFS, replicate and relax

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    It will take you as much time to change the paths to a new server as it will to change to the DFS path. Once done you won't have to worry about this problem again.

    2008 allows changes to a DCs name but personally I wouldn't do it.

    Do find and replaces on all your shortcuts etc. shouldn't take too long.

    Ricki missed moving fsmo roles to the new server. Although in theory they should move themselves I'd do it manually as its litteraly a 2 min job

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    As already mentioned, you can't give it the same name otherwise it will cause conflicts in the DNS name resolution. It's like having two number 27's in one road. How does the postman know which one to deliver to?

    Clearly if you've not done this before, I would suggest you promote the new server as a DC then migrate shares manually one by one. DFS is for another day. You'll then need to migrate other server roles, such as Printing, File Sharing, IIS and the FSMO roles themselves which every network requires.

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    I'd start with running the domain and forest prep's for the new version of windows.
    Build the new machine (new name, new static IP)
    Make it a domain member
    Then run DCPROMO. Making sure DNS is setup and AD integrated and Global Catalogue is selected.
    Set robocopy running to mirror user data folders to the new server

    Leave to settle for a couple of days for replication

    Then transfer the 5 FSMO roles
    Again make sure robocopy is mirroring across user data

    Again leave to settle for a couple of days.

    Now you should be able to make batch changes to AD to point users profiles and home folders to the new server. Also update any logon batch files, etc to reference the the new server.

    Again a couple of days to confirm users are not having problems accessing files from the new server.

    Run DCPROMO on the old server to demote and remove it as a domain controller.

    Turn off the old server - job done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    Turn off the old server - job done!
    Or alternatively keep it running as a load balancing/backup/fall over server

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    I'd start with running the domain and forest prep's for the new version of windows.
    Build the new machine (new name, new static IP)
    Make it a domain member
    Then run DCPROMO. Making sure DNS is setup and AD integrated and Global Catalogue is selected.
    Set robocopy running to mirror user data folders to the new server

    Leave to settle for a couple of days for replication

    Then transfer the 5 FSMO roles
    Again make sure robocopy is mirroring across user data

    Again leave to settle for a couple of days.

    Now you should be able to make batch changes to AD to point users profiles and home folders to the new server. Also update any logon batch files, etc to reference the the new server.

    Again a couple of days to confirm users are not having problems accessing files from the new server.

    Run DCPROMO on the old server to demote and remove it as a domain controller.

    Turn off the old server - job done!

    Ok, So far I have:

    Run adprep /domainprep and /forestprep on the old server.
    Done a system state backup of the old server (to a different location)
    Joined the domain with the new server
    Run dcpromo on the new server.

    I'm about to set up robocopy to bring across the data from the old Ddrive.

    I'm hoping at the end of everything, I can use netdom to rename the new server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quietriot1983 View Post
    I'm hoping at the end of everything, I can use netdom to rename the new server.
    You've been warned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quietriot1983 View Post

    I'm hoping at the end of everything, I can use netdom to rename the new server.
    Why does the new server need renaming? surely you gave it it's correct name when you first installed Windows?

    Edit: just re-read post #3. I'd follow @mdench's suggestion and use a DNS alias to point to the new server rather than changing the new servers name. AD can be very touchy about these things...
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    I'm only looking at renaming as I have loads of teacher laptops that are standalone, and they have numerous folders and bits and bobs all shortcutted using the server name (we only have one), so rather than renew all those, and reinstall printers etc, I was hoping to use the same name.


    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...=ws.10%29.aspx
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    use a DNS alias to point to the new server rather than changing the new servers name. AD can be very touchy about these things...
    ^ This then.

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