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Windows Server 2008 R2 Thread, Is this a good price / spec for a school server? in Technical; Originally Posted by K.C.Leblanc You should also be specing a UPS as well. Already got one of those on our ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.C.Leblanc View Post
    You should also be specing a UPS as well.
    Already got one of those on our current server x

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiqueABoo View Post
    Because Primary schools have been known to burn down etc.? [One I'm aware of that didn't do off-site got lucky because although the drives looked like toast, the specialist data recovery company did manage to get their data back]
    Also viruses could easily infect \ delete online NAS data if we're talking worst case scenarios. Could have a power spike affecting your site that kills HDDs even if on UPS (I've seen it happen)

    Having some form of offline \ different media makes me feel a lot happier... as it stands we have D2D backup via Veeam then D2T with Backup Exec streaming the Veeam files to tape. If you have a fast enough connection (and deep enough wallet) you could replace tape with online backup but the ongoing costs were too much in comparison to one-off capital purchase for the tapes in our case.

    As for the server, does look a bit on the pricey side... I'd go to Misco or similar and get them to do bid \ education pricing on the same spec and see how it comes back... if you're paying standard off the shelf prices on that quote there could be quite a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by gshaw View Post
    Also viruses could easily infect \ delete online NAS data if we're talking worst case scenarios. Could have a power spike affecting your site that kills HDDs even if on UPS (I've seen it happen)

    Having some form of offline \ different media makes me feel a lot happier... as it stands we have D2D backup via Veeam then D2T with Backup Exec streaming the Veeam files to tape. If you have a fast enough connection (and deep enough wallet) you could replace tape with online backup but the ongoing costs were too much in comparison to one-off capital purchase for the tapes in our case
    I can only speak from our experience but we have been using a Qnap 8gb NAS in a separate location for 2 years now and its been flawless. Can a virus even infect a linux device?? Anyway we've never had a problem and restores take 2 mins to do.

    Tape is a long and distant memory.

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    It doesn't need to infect it as such, it could just run a rmdir over the network for all attached devices...would need to have got onto a machine with privileges to access the NAS though - in our case that would mean installing it as an admin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsdenprimary View Post
    Already got one of those on our current server x
    You may wish to look at whether the batteries need replacing.

    For setup/migration, tape and server, that price isn't overly ridiculous to be honest.

    The migration/setup could easily be £1k+, the server £1.7k and the tape £1k.

    So, not really a 'run for the hills' kinda price. However, is it overkill? In particular, the hard discs, and potentially the type of backup drive (the LTO-4 can handle 800GB/1600GB compressed which is significantly higher than the disk space being installed).

    An LTO-3 drive would cost around £650 compared to an LTO-4 at around £1k. SATA drives would be around £100 - £150 cheaper, each than SAS 15k drives.

    How many clients is it serving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiqueABoo View Post
    Because Primary schools have been known to burn down etc.? [One I'm aware of that didn't do off-site got lucky because although the drives looked like toast, the specialist data recovery company did manage to get their data back]
    It's a shame tape drives are so expensive. Think it'll be possible to put our DELL tapedrive into a new server? A HP for example?

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    Run RDX instead of LTO. Cheaper and no need to replace in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    Can a virus even infect a linux device?? Anyway we've never had a problem and restores take 2 mins to do.

    Tape is a long and distant memory.
    Does it need to, if your docs server is owned, that has write privilages on the NAS to do backups then the owned server can happily just tell the NAS to kill the files.

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    There are lot of suggestions/recommendations in this thread so I will avoid repeating any of them,

    The E5606 is an Entry Level Low Spec server for general use with only an 8Mb cache
    The server has bee mated with 3 x 15k High Performance SAS drives which provides raid 5 with no hot spare?
    Only 4GB of ram which will not be of great use if you decide to lump every task that you have on it (including the Backup Exec Media Server).

    If you plan on building a house make sure the foundations match the desired building!

    As a file server it will suffice, for any other purposes look at using the 2.54Ghz 12Mb CPU's as these fly in comparison

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