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    Your backup procedure / strategy ?

    Currently (don't laugh) we are only backing up to a ext drive, nightly, then monthly doing a dvd backup. Of course this has gotten VERY tedius, b/c the dvd's are starting to stack up.

    This is all going to be changed.

    Not sure of the scheduling as of yet. Looking into purchasing an RD1000 to handle the long term archival.

    Schedule ?
    Mon-Fri: Nightly Incremental Backup
    Sat: Full Backup, offsite.

    Thoughts?
    Any advice is welcome.

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    We currently backup to an Intel 10TB storage server in a separate building to the servers.
    Monday to Thursday: incremental
    Friday: full

    We have a two week rotation.

    Also we use Volume Shadow Copy for recovering user files that go back a few months (I can't remember the last time I had to get any files from the backup server)

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    Mon - Thurs: incremental to backup caching server.
    Fri - fulls to backup caching server.
    VMs either get snapshotted (appliance / box), or standard backup (DCs)

    Databases get fulls every night.

    The caching server syncs backups to the remote backup server (external building with fire gap). We keep the two latest backups on the caching server and everything else (including a copy of the two latest) on the remote backup server.

    Caching box which lives in the server room is a generic Dell tower with 2TB and the remote box is a QNAP with about 11TB after RAID.

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    Disk backup in no good for long term storage. It is great for rapid turn round but with 3TB for a full backup we are using tape this means I can go back to 2.5 year when the system started. We have a daily, weekly x4, Monthly x3 the 3rd monthly becomes archive and never over written we have 48TB of data in storage!!

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    I appreciate the responses guys. I have been told the exact opposite, that tape isn't as reliable as disk.

    Thoughts?

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    Drives are not as robust as tapes, drop a tape.. it'll work, drop a drive you might be in trouble. Drives have connectors and bits that can be broken, although it doesn't affect the data it can be a pain.... tapes are easier to store, less environmental worries - but I guess that depends how you'd store the drive.
    Last edited by dwhyte85; 13th January 2011 at 01:31 PM.

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    HP Ultrium LTO4 drive 1.6TB tapes (800GB native 1.6TB compressed)
    Fire proof safe in seperate building
    Essential data backed up daily
    Non essential data backed up weekly (or depending on it's usage sometimes 2 x per week, tuesday night and thursday night)

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    Quote Originally Posted by siadam View Post
    I appreciate the responses guys. I have been told the exact opposite, that tape isn't as reliable as disk.

    Thoughts?
    Tape (in the sense that someone has to stuff the autoloader / library, rotate a tape out to offsite storage) isn't as reliable as disk simply because humans are involved. If you can afford a robot or have an autoloader attached to the remote server that's less of a problem.

    Whereas disk (in the sense of remote server, rather than using disks as removable media) doesn't require any human intervention beyond setting up the backup and retention schedule. Less moving fleshy parts = less scope for problems.

    And your sacrifical goat budget can be lower if you're not so dependent on tape.

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    HDD can go down but if you have raid it doesn't matter. you could get a qnap nas with raid put it in another building, or get 2 and bounce the backups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemmaacraman View Post
    Have you looked at any online data backup companies at all - will avoid initial outlays with the hard ware and is completley automated, usually works out a lot cheaper as well . Id be happy to make a recommendation if required
    What online backup do you use and what is the cost like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDM01 View Post
    What online backup do you use and what is the cost like?
    I'd recommend something like Amazon S3. Large company and if your backup software can't work directly with S3 (lots can now) then you could use something like JungleDisk to get just the data you need into the cloud

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    We use Gigasoft for data backup. System State for the DC, all data, and profiles. Backed up via the internet every evening (apart from the DC which is weekly) I can also restore remotely and from the users PC if needed.
    After the initial masive seed load it only takes 10mins to backup each night.
    However I do have an external drive which takes a Bare metal, system state etc.... every evening.
    Just happy to have a working decent backup solution.

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    Backup wednesday to drive stored in our server room, Friday to external building, Shadow copy for restoring the basics.
    Our service provider backup our Admin/sims server

    We are considering going a next step up at some point.

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