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Windows Server 2008 R2 Thread, Turn off the server? in Technical; We've got to do it this year as we are having a full electric inspection normally I'll leave them running. ...
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    We've got to do it this year as we are having a full electric inspection normally I'll leave them running. Most of our files and planning are now on the Google drive which has lessoned the demand for an always on server but it hasn't prevented our ancient admin server from destroying both hard disks this week fortunately we've got two USB backup drives and a 60 day daily offsite back up via the bgfl. The most frustrating part was our new server was being delivered in august ready for sims.net, Murphy's law strikes again!

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    Of course servers are portable this argument comes up time and time again.

    Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Of course servers a portable this argument comes up time and time again.

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    Still don't have to power them down for inspection.

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    If they have a removable lead should get a full test.

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    If they have a removable lead should get a full test.

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    Ours don't as they're mounted to a rack cabinet and as for being portable if you want to try and move a 5ft x 3ft cabinet with 3 servers bolted in place, you are more than welcome to try but our setup is definitely not a portable one... hence my earlier comment...I'd be interested to hear from anyone who works at a data centre to see if they have similar issues with PAT testers

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    I'd love to see that being argued with any IT department in enterprise - any PAT tester would be electrified and then forcibly removed from the building. Servers are servers. Data centers do not have to, what makes schools any different. We still run data centers, just for smaller end users...

    One difference may be cabling though - although still not fixed, the larger units would be fed from 3phase supplies and each bit of hardware in the rack would be fed from a PDU. The connection to the mains from the PDU is still, by and large, removable.
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    The admin server is just under the finance officer's desk and is used as her computer. (
    ow... ouch! why?! :O

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    Haha i'd love someone to tell me that, i'd laugh in their faces!

    I had to plan in specific days and times during the summer to do shutdowns (electrics being moved and server room wall being ripped out) and i managed to persuade 1 day + hour slots here n there, god forbid if i shut the things down for the whole summer!

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    I don't think there's any real risk to the "server" other than the usual "it doesn't normally get turned off so there's a chance moving parts might fail by turning it off" risk with any device.

    The issue I'd have is purely operational. What if someone needs to use it and you're unavailable there and then? Are the LEA going to go and start it up for them?

    Also, servers do need testing but the test you use is determined by the risk. For me, they are "test on repair" devices only. Yearly tests are purely visual. They don't get powered down to do flash testing or some other crazy test.

    Any device which isn't hardwired is classed as portable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrCheese View Post
    ow... ouch! why?! :O
    Entirely normal in a Primary school... nowhere else to have it.

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    Quite a few primaries in a similar situation. In many, the bursar is also the receptionist, head's PA, first aider and go-to person for the entire school. Not unlike their PC, usually the most powerful in the school, often is the MIS server. If not, then it's certainly not odd for them to have a proper admin server which, like the curriculum server (if separate) is just put in the first physical place found with space. And as above Go To person is usually the one responsible for the backups, or/and is the ICT Coordinator too, it makes sense for them to have it to hand.

    Off topic. Hats off to those very people. I know a few, and the term "underpaid and overworked" couldn't apply more aptly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    Entirely normal in a Primary school... nowhere else to have it.
    no no I mean that it's a computer that's in use as well that's... scary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    If they have a removable lead should get a full test.

    Ben
    Source?

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    This again. I hasten to provide this link:

    http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg236.pdf

    Important info: PCs, monitors etc DO NOT NEED TESTING EVERY YEAR. Not much specific for servers though. My point about datacentres stand. Visual inspections, out of common sense and regards for fellow man should indeed be done yearly IMO but again, that isn't a requirement.
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    I don't believe there is any law saying it must be done and in your risk assesment for your working areas i.e server room you would cover this and balance the risks against the purpose of the equipment.

    Ben

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