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    Quota limits, what do you recommend?

    I've only today discovered the awesome that is, File Server Resource Manager.

    I've been looking at different limits for different year groups shares but I feel it's not granular enough!

    I've noticed that some pupils in different year groups have massive areas because there doing photography or video.

    Could I impose a limit (say 500Mb) to a certain folder (say my year 9's user areas \\server\09$) but then increase that limit for a particular security group (i'd make one called photoclub) then stick those users within it.

    is there away of shrinking .psd files and mass recompressing .jpgs?

    How do you sort yours?

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    Year 7's 250mb
    Year 8's 500MB
    Year 9's 1GB
    Year 10 2GB
    Year 11 3 GB
    6th Form 4GB

    If there's particular needs, we extend their quota by applying the next level up to that student. The only reason we impose quotas is to stop them filling up their areas with MP3 files, which given half the chance they will do!

    Staff have un-limited space, but a 10GB 'Soft Quota' which will e-mail them when they've exceeded it and remind them to check their file storage. Same again at 20GB and 30GB.

    Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    Year 7's 250mb
    Year 8's 500MB
    Year 9's 1GB
    Year 10 2GB
    Year 11 3 GB
    6th Form 4GB

    If there's particular needs, we extend their quota by applying the next level up to that student. The only reason we impose quotas is to stop them filling up their areas with MP3 files, which given half the chance they will do!

    Staff have un-limited space, but a 10GB 'Soft Quota' which will e-mail them when they've exceeded it and remind them to check their file storage. Same again at 20GB and 30GB.

    Mike.
    how many students do you have?
    how many servers?

    i was looking at ours recently as the it hod was moaning, i think what you have would keep him happy, i see no need. i would have to massivly increase file server size and increase backup system

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    My quota system is inherantly flawed in that if every student used their quota, there wouldn't be enough space, but in reality this doesn't happen.

    We have 450 students, and a 1TB of storage allocated between them. Most students are fairly sensible with their file storage, the quotas are only there to stop those that aren't, and shouldn't impact on the students ability to use the machines effectively - if it did we would review it immediatly.
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    Year 7: 180Mb
    Year 8: 220Mb
    Year 9: 260Mb
    Year 10: 300Mb
    Year 11: 400Mb
    Year 12: 450Mb
    Year 13: 500Mb

    All hard limits. Biggest problem with them was kids getting their RECYCLER folders filling up - they were deleting stuff as they should but it wasn't actually clearing the space for them. We're now using AngryTechnician's Recycle Bin Script to empty out old items to mitigate that problem.

    Gonna start setting up soft quotas for staff today as the drive holding their home directories has 4Gb left...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    My quota system is inherantly flawed in that if every student used their quota, there wouldn't be enough space, but in reality this doesn't happen.

    We have 450 students, and a 1TB of storage allocated between them. Most students are fairly sensible with their file storage, the quotas are only there to stop those that aren't, and shouldn't impact on the students ability to use the machines effectively - if it did we would review it immediatly.
    I have 700ish users and 500GB! I'm down to the last 89GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazzy2501 View Post
    I have 700ish users and 500GB! I'm down to the last 89GB.
    I would be looking at available options to expand that storage in that situation, as well as introducing a quota system. I would say in this day and age an average of less than 1GB per student is not really enough.

    Of course if you've no available funds to expand the storage, then you just gotta make do the best you can with what you've got.

    Mike.

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    We have a soft quota and work on the principle that if it's relevant schoolwork, then the storage is there for you to use.

    I'd warn against resizing jpegs in student homedirs - a) you're modifying user data (which is IME a big "don't do that" for sysadmins and b) you don't know which of those ridiculously high res photos they'll want to print out poster-sized for coursework.

    If someone's talking the michael storage-wise, we send them an email asking them to have a clearout by $date. If they don't respond, we send the request via the form tutor.

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    I run VMware here so I can expand the volume if I need. The problem at the moment is that the data is so large the backup window is now 50 hours. (VMWare4 over ethernet sucks)

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    all staff and students have about 150mb and about the same for exchange
    some staff have unlimited or more
    we also have shared areas

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    No quota's - zip - ziltch - de nadda - nothing. Got rid of them all 5 minutes after starting. Solved two big network problems with just a couple of mouse clicks. 1) users queing at the door want more space, 2) 90% of available hdd space unused.

    Also stopped deleting kids work at the end of every school year . Buying a new ?Tb NAS box in the summer to give more space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    No quota's - zip - ziltch - de nadda - nothing. Got rid of them all 5 minutes after starting. Solved two big network problems with just a couple of mouse clicks. 1) users queing at the door want more space, 2) 90% of available hdd space unused.

    Also stopped deleting kids work at the end of every school year . Buying a new ?Tb NAS box in the summer to give more space.
    how do you back it up?
    How do you do off site disaster recovery?

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    lol ours is

    7 30mb
    8 50mb
    9 60mb
    10 80mb
    11 100mb


    We are really generous you see

    O and the fact that RM provide servers with about 1gb of hard disk space.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maark View Post
    how do you back it up?
    How do you do off site disaster recovery?
    Currently - 4Tb NAS on site for file backups and 4Tb portable NAS taken off-site for VM images. Most backups are incremental so don't require that much space. Will review our back-up/DR plans as the need a rises.

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    @all:
    I have come to the conclusion that the more you give students and staff the more they will fill it full of rubbish (@synack do you see how I have used the word rubbish instead of the word C**p) so we just give them the following quotas and ask the staff to request more disk space if required for both themselves and students.

    7 30mb
    8 50mb
    9 60mb
    10 80mb
    11 100mb

    Staff 100mb plus VLE shared resource area for their teaching and learning.

    So far it has worked like a dream.

    We have just over 6.3Tb of data space that we can use but I feel we will progress into this over time as the requirements grow.

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