Surface (Win RT) in Education...

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Originally Posted by RichCowell

The Microsoft Surface comes with Office 2013 pre-installed, shouldn't need to be covered by EES / alternative licensing... Apparently other manufacturers won't be allowed to package it with Office... Whether that'll still be the case when the others really get going with it I don't know... Surely M$ wouldn't try to make money in any way? :-p

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It's not full office though, it's home and student edition only.

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Final Office Home & Student 2013 RT version will be installed via Windows Update when available (free download; ISP fees apply). Some features and programs unsupported. See http://office.com/officeRT; commercial use license sold separately

http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-GB/business/home

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So guessing you need the "commercial use license" however you cover it, e.g. EES/Single licenses etc etc

Steve

Aah yes... I hadn't spotted that... We've published the Office Apps on the TS, so they'll be used more than the packaged apps...

If they're for students' use though as someone mentioned previously, that should cover them...

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Originally Posted by RichCowell

As far as I'm aware, Office 2013 is only going to be pre-installed on the Microsoft devices, and not other manufacturers when they get going with it... so it is likely to involve extra licenses in some way, unless they're going to use Office published from a Terminal Server... which works nicely...

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Not sure... my understanding was that Office 2013 was "part of" Windows RT and that all RT devices would include it. I was looking at the details of the Asus VivoTab RT which includes a "preview" version of Office 2013. And according to Office Home & Student RT Preview - Office.com this can be upgraded "for free" to the release version. As for licensing, yes it's not for commercial or business use. And I guess they don't want schools purchasing them just for classroom use, as they'd prefer you to buy a full Office license, but if they're being used at home as well, perhaps that might be OK?

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Originally Posted by PeterH

As for licensing, yes it's not for commercial or business use. And I guess they don't want schools purchasing them just for classroom use, as they'd prefer you to buy a full Office license, but if they're being used at home as well, perhaps that might be OK?

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I guess it depends how the tablets are being purchased - if the school's buying them for the pupils then licensing may be an issue, but if it's one of those schemes where parents pay so much a month then keep them at the end, then they're the pupils' devices so licensing shouldn't be an issue...

As for staff use, aren't teachers eligible to buy Student editions anyway? (or was that an old version of Student/Teacher edition?) They're only going to be advantageous in schools with the Terminal Servers to publish apps to benefit from the shared drives/printers anyway, so it could be argued that Office is redundant on them, in school anyway, so anything else would just be personal use...

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Originally Posted by CyberNerd

RT is becoming a bit more usable, provided you compile the apps yourself

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A jailbreak tool has now been released. :)

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36529478

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Originally Posted by Arthur

A jailbreak tool has now been released. :)

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36529478

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Microsoft are already planning a fix though...
Microsoft Actually Applauds Hacker For Windows RT Jailbreak Attempt - Forbes

Just wondering if anyone else has got a Surface here and had to rely on document auto-recovery in the pre-loaded Office 2013? One of the users here was working on a large Word document, until his battery died... hadn't saved it, but it didn't recover...

Seemed strange to me, but I'll test it when I can leave the battery to die...

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Originally Posted by RichCowell

Just wondering if anyone else has got a Surface here and had to rely on document auto-recovery in the pre-loaded Office 2013? One of the users here was working on a large Word document, until his battery died... hadn't saved it, but it didn't recover...

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I finally managed to find a suitable time to run the battery down while I was with it working on a dummy document... It only recovered the first line of the file, but didn't prompt me to do anything with it - I had to look for it in File - Recover Unsaved Documents... Not too impressed with the pre-loaded Office 2013 so far!