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    Windows 8 ISO

    Hello,

    I have just ordered a Dell Latitude E7240 for myself as a personal purchase.

    First job is to erase the drive and install the original the Windows 8 Pro without any of the rubbish Dell love to install. The key is embedded in the BIOS. I believe i will get a Windows 8 disc but i don't want the junk.

    Where can i get an original ISO please? All the stuff i have seen online is about a utility you can download the ISO but only if you have the key.

    Thanks

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    Perhaps just try recovering the key and use that for the download? How To Retrieve Windows 8 OEM Product Key From BIOS | Next of Windows

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    Could you not use a volume license dvd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Where can i get an original ISO please?
    Here or here. The file you need is this one...

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    File Name: en_windows_8.1_with_update_x64_dvd_4065090.iso
    SHA-1: 4652DC6EBFEBE02C6A63E167C36E3FAEDFB93999
    I was going to suggest VLSC, but the Windows 8.1 Update 1 ISOs aren't available to download.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    I was going to suggest VLSC, but the Windows 8.1 Update 1 ISOs aren't available to download.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the standard Windows 8.1 iso download include update 1 now?

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    Thanks Arthur.

    I don't think I can use the volume license media as they keys for OEM are not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    I don't think I can use the volume license media as the keys for OEM are not the same.
    Normally you can't, but it's easy enough to make a VL ISO accept an OEM key.

    However, if you download either of the ISOs linked in my post above, Windows will automatically read the MSDM key embedded in the BIOS of your laptop during setup and activate the OS. This is because neither ISO contains an ei.cfg file within the 'Sources' folder (as explained below).

    With Windows 7, OEMs generally had one key for each major product version (Home, Pro, etc), and you could change versions by simply using a different OEM key. The BIOS certificate (SLIC) was specific only to the OEM, one SLIC was used for any and all Windows versions. With Windows 8 and SLIC 3.0, there were not generic OEM keys in this way. Since each machine had a unique serial embedded into the firmware, it was possible to determine Windows edition as well as type/OEM from the firmware alone. If your new laptop has a Windows 8 Standard preinstalled, and you've purchased an OEM System Builder (OEMSB) copy of Windows 8 Pro, you will encounter the problem OP had. Installing from Windows 8 Pro OEMSB media, the installer detects the valid Windows 8 non-Pro MSDM table, inserts that key, and installs non-Pro. You are not given any opportunity to override this. You are also generally not allowed to change edition easily post-install with the OEMSB keys.

    In order to keep your install media from using your MSDM key, the methods mentioned here generally work. By creating an ei.cfg file and adding it to your install media, you tell the installer that it is not OEM media, it is retail. Since retail does not have MSDM, it never checks for it and will instead ask for the serial to use.

    ei.cfg changed the way it was used after Windows 7. Windows Vista and 7 both had an ei.cfg by default, and removing it caused the install to ask what edition to install. With Windows 8, it's reversed. If there is no ei.cfg file, Windows 8 will look for SLIC 3.0 information, and if it isn't found, it'll ask for a key. If you create and add an ei.cfg file, you can change the install media from OEM (default) to retail or even Volume Licensed. That's what is done here, by creating an ei.cfg and tagging the release as Retail, it skips the step where Windows Setup looks for SLIC 3.0/MSDM info, and goes straight to the next retail step, where it asks what edition to install and then prompts for a key.
    Source: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtop...3195#p26623195

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaminben View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the standard Windows 8.1 iso download include update 1 now?
    I think you might be right actually.
    Last edited by Arthur; 31st August 2014 at 10:48 PM.

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    Cheers, just downloading an ISO.

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    Hi @Arthur the links to the ISO are asking for a Windows product key. The link suggested in post 2 doesn't work.

    An thoughts please?

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    The Dell media works.

    I wish they wouldn't put this junk on machines!!

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    I have something you could try, but I won't be able to post details until I get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Any thoughts please?
    Can you try one of the following generic product keys with the ISO you downloaded from the first link in post #4? This should enable you to install Windows 8.1.

    I assume your laptop came with the Pro edition?

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    Windows 8.1       334NH-RXG76-64THK-C7CKG-D3VPT
    Windows 8.1 Pro   XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB
    Once in Windows, download this program to read the MSDM product key stored in your BIOS, run slmgr /upk from an elevated Command Prompt, then run slui 3, wait for a dialog box to appear and copy-and-paste your MSDM product key.
    Last edited by Arthur; 2nd September 2014 at 09:49 PM.

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    I'm just going to leave this here...

    Microsoft Volume Licensing Brief - Reimaging Licensed Microsoft Software by Using Volume Licensing Media

    Pretty sure you're only allowed to use the OEM supplied image without a volume licensing agreement, and I know you all like being above board here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbmarshall View Post
    I'm just going to leave this here...

    Microsoft Volume Licensing Brief - Reimaging Licensed Microsoft Software by Using Volume Licensing Media

    Pretty sure you're only allowed to use the OEM supplied image without a volume licensing agreement, and I know you all like being above board here.
    But the OEM supplied one is full of junk. Surely if the PC is licensed for Windows I can use an original Microsoft disc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    But the OEM supplied one is full of junk. Surely if the PC is licensed for Windows I can use an original Microsoft disc?
    I don't want to drag this thread down into the boring and complex world of Microsoft licensing; however, if you don't have a VL you can't use the VL media to re-install Windows onto your personal device - no matter how much the OEM image sucks.

    Obviously, as this thread suggests, there are ways around this. It's just that those ways are probably not legal, and therefore EduGeek is possibly not the best place to discuss them.



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