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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    From the event I went to at Microsoft a few days ago, it seems Group Polices are on their way out...


    One would hope that would mean the group policy system would be replaced by something equally as powerful but more functional and not just dropped altogether?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbios View Post


    One would hope that would mean the group policy system would be replaced by something equally as powerful but more functional and not just dropped altogether?
    i thing gpp was the first step in that direction ie make your own damn policies lol and the fact they ditched the ie maintenance section in ie10+

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    Group Polices are on their way out...
    God I hope not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbios View Post


    One would hope that would mean the group policy system would be replaced by something equally as powerful but more functional and not just dropped altogether?
    I can't see them phasing GP out all together - its one of the fundamental parts to AD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    From the event I went to at Microsoft a few days ago, it seems Group Polices are on their way out...
    So, businesses* are going to run Win7/8.1 into the ground, just like XP, because there's no way to manage Win9+...

    Then Microsoft will lose the business* sector entirely to Apple/Linux/Android? when it goes EOL...



    Yeah, can't see that happening.


    [*Including Education. In this case business = not personal use.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    I can't see them phasing GP out all together - its one of the fundamental parts to AD!
    i suspect the thinking is more and more devices will be byod and data lives in the cloud do you need ad anymore when $company$ can rent you the storage etc and charge you every year

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    i thing gpp was the first step in that direction ie make your own damn policies lol and the fact they ditched the ie maintenance section in ie10+
    Group policies and group policy preferences are two different things though. A group policy is a policy, i.e. it defines a setting and enforces it whether the user likes it or not. A preference however defines a default for a user but allows them to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norphy View Post
    Group policies and group policy preferences are two different things though. A group policy is a policy, i.e. it defines a setting and enforces it whether the user likes it or not. A preference however defines a default for a user but allows them to change it.
    thats my point long term i suspect gpp will be the ONLY way to apply settings to a bunch of computers

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    Yes they were looking at extending cloud based solutions such as intune and moving towards more of a BYOD design.

    Apparently with group policies you have no way of knowing if its applied (they have a point). So it will be interesting how this develops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    From the event I went to at Microsoft a few days ago.
    Hang on - this wasnt on 01/04/2014 per chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Hang on - this wasnt on 01/04/2014 per chance?
    Thats the one

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    Good one nearly had me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    I've not come across a single (non technical person) yet who gets or understands what tiles are all about - they just want a clean desktop.
    All but a single member of staff at my school is happy with the Start Screen. I did 20 mins of training to show them how to customise it all and I had people lining up to ask me when their computer would be upgraded.

    The 'clean' aspect, however, is absolutely correct. The single biggest problem with acceptance of the Start Screen is how cluttered the default one is, even on a vanilla install, devoid of OEM clutter. If you start people off with a nice clean Start Screen and show them how to customise it, they take to it very quickly. Our default has just 8 tiles: File Explorer, IE, Desktop, Calculator, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Publisher. Several users who had Windows 8 at home commented on first seeing it in school that what I'd done was much nicer than they had at home. Some of those same people now have quite busy Start Screens that they have put together themselves, but they still like it, because it's their Start Screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    From the event I went to at Microsoft a few days ago, it seems Group Policies are on their way out...
    To be replaced with PowerShell Desired State Configuration?

    If so, that makes sense since the use of configuration management tools like Salt, Ansible, Chef and Puppet is becoming more common.

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