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Windows 8 Thread, It's Windows 8.1 Day! in Technical; Originally Posted by Arthur I don't see how MS lied, since they always said the Start button would open the ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    I don't see how MS lied, since they always said the Start button would open the Start Screen in 8.1.
    Agree they didn't lie but they did mislead; claiming that the Start button is back would clearly make most users believe the old start menu was back too

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    make most users believe the old start menu was back too
    I don't understand why people thought that would actually happen.

    It would be like Microsoft removing the ribbon from Office 2013 and reverting back to the old 2003-style interface. It would never happen when you think about it logically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREED View Post
    Oh I see... Microsoft plainly lied then/ There is no start menu, just takes you to a metro screen with all your apps install...

    I feel dirty... really really dirty...
    Erm, just been over half a year's controversy on the subject in the tech media. It's a very well known piece of intrigue for Win 8.1

    You can make it less jarring though by setting the Start background to be the same as your desktop, actually looks quite nice if very Unity-like. Doesn't fix the primary issue of Metro apps being sub-par for desktop though. Can anyone find the Boot to Desktop option by the way? Settings are still a total mess in Win 8 and scattered everywhere.

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    Anyone having any issues downloading from VLSC ? Gets to about 4% and dies, tried at home and work using download manager and browser (chrome and IE)
    I guess it's maybe still busy

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    Erm, just been over half a year's controversy on the subject in the tech media. It's a very well known piece of intrigue for Win 8.1

    You can make it less jarring though by setting the Start background to be the same as your desktop, actually looks quite nice if very Unity-like. Doesn't fix the primary issue of Metro apps being sub-par for desktop though. Can anyone find the Boot to Desktop option by the way? Settings are still a total mess in Win 8 and scattered everywhere.
    @CAM The boot to desktop option is in the taskbar properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    Can anyone find the Boot to Desktop option by the way?
    Control Panel > Taskbar and Navigation > Navigation tab

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    I'd have expected to find it in something like MSCONFIG's Startup tab or PC Settings app in Metro. Shows how messy and disjointed the settings management has become. >.<

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    still no sign of update on my store! and ive used the MAK key on my pro edition.

    dont know why this is not done as a windows update, wouldve made life soo much easy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffrey View Post
    Anyone having any issues downloading from VLSC ? Gets to about 4% and dies, tried at home and work using download manager and browser (chrome and IE)
    I guess it's maybe still busy
    are you downloading the update from there or the full OS?

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    Right so, I get all that that it has been well known if you look hard enough about this start menu business... so my next point is what does the start button actually do that I didn't have before? I had that little pop out mini metro switcher, and my windows Burton on my keyboard!!!

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    It is just an aesthetic change to help those who couldn't find the Start button. Having been an early adopter of Win 8, not much core functionality has changed TBH (at least not immediately noticeable).

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffrey View Post
    Anyone having any issues downloading from VLSC ? Gets to about 4% and dies, tried at home and work using download manager and browser (chrome and IE)
    I guess it's maybe still busy
    Yep, doing the same for me. Havn't been able to get 8.1 or anything else from there since yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmoon-mint View Post
    Still cannot find the update in the store, really frustrating! Tried wsreset in command line like you guys suggested but this did not fix the problem. I have even removed the KB2871389 update and reinstalled it manually but again nothing.... Any ideas guys?
    It did not show on my Win 8 VM until I installed all available Windows updates! Had about 40 outstanding. Installed them all, rebooted and it then showed in the Store.

    Quote Originally Posted by GREED View Post
    Right so, I get all that that it has been well known if you look hard enough about this start menu business... so my next point is what does the start button actually do that I didn't have before? I had that little pop out mini metro switcher, and my windows Burton on my keyboard!!!
    The only useful thing I've found is that if you right click it, you get access to a load of admin related utilities. Apart from that, it simply loads Metro.
    Last edited by Rawns; 18th October 2013 at 08:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamoire View Post
    Yep, doing the same for me. Havn't been able to get 8.1 or anything else from there since yesterday.
    Mine barely starts and then drops in speed to about 15Kb/s Tried getting it yesterday afternoon and managed to get to 1GB complete before it just stopped. I guess the download site is getting a lot of hammer

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    At least it's not me, shame as I wanted to test this today

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