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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    It is something I noticed with the EU browser law, it only works one way against MS' favour. They are forced to annoy users with a pop-up screen whilst other OS platforms aren't. Last time I mentioned it, someone pointed out that Linux has the repositories to download a new browser, but you still have to look for it otherwise you end up using the default shipped with the distro (normally Firefox these days).

    Apple on the otherhand, their entire marketing strategy is based around locking users into the Apple Experience. How they are evading the EU's gaze is beyond me!

    It does seem a little one-sided that Windows is the only OS forced to go through this annoying browser choice garbage.

    The EU ruling wasn't because MS had included IE into it's operating system; it was because they had integrated it so far into the OS they claimed it couldn't be removed without breaking the OS, and prevented OEM's from installing Netscape or Opera. Its a different situation with Apple because a) they don'y have a monopoly (yet) b) they don't have any OEMs.
    If Apple get a monopoly (on ipads presumably - although this is looking unlikely) anyone would be free to bring an antritrust case against them

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    The EU ruling wasn't because MS had included IE into it's operating system; it was because they had integrated it so far into the OS they claimed it couldn't be removed without breaking the OS, and prevented OEM's from installing Netscape or Opera. Its a different situation with Apple because a) they don'y have a monopoly (yet) b) they don't have any OEMs.
    If Apple get a monopoly (on ipads presumably - although this is looking unlikely) anyone would be free to bring an antritrust case against them
    The ruling was because Microsoft had leveraged their de facto monopoly in the OS market, and combined it with their insider knowledge of the subsystems of the OS in order to build IE into the OS, forcing their way into another market whilst excluding other browsers from having access of the same level (meaning, therefore, that performance and capability of competing browsers was reduced). They also added in the requirement that OEMs didn't include other browsers too. Part of the ruling was to produce a version of Windows without IE included and making it available for sale (the N editions).

    The same thing happened with Media Player in another case - leading to the 'K' editions of Windows.

    Has anyone ever installed with of those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    That's the advantage Apple have. They are primarily a hardware vendor. They can put whatever they like on their products unlike Microsoft who, as a software vendor, have to cater for a wide range of compatible systems.
    Maybe this is why they are making the Surface themselves, perhaps the EU will only get the MS hardware version of the ARM ones so they can't pull their silly games.

    As to integrating IE into the OS, as it has been said before that's the only way that makes sense software wise. If your OS renders stuff like folder info bars, help files and active desktop you need a HTML engine in it. It needs to perform the expected way so simply ripping it out and replacing it with something else is not smart. Its funny, the same crew that usually go for html everything are the ones that go off at MS for IE which was one of the first lot to start doing lots of their internal OS layout in it. The whole thing is a competition between software decisions and political ones.

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