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    MIT app inventor?

    We are trying to use MIT App Inventor in School: http://beta.appinventor.mit.edu/
    It works fine as an Administrator but when trying it as a normal user, clicking on the "Open the Blocks Editor" button nothing happens, the same if we save the "AppInventorForAndroidCodeblocks.jnlp" - nothing happens when we try and open it.

    We beleive this is a permissions error that's being set somewhere in group policy, but we cannot find anything which would be blocking it from running. We have tried IE8, IE9 and firefox all with the same outcome and various versions of Java on different computers...

    Any ideas?

    Edit: We are running Windows 7 Professional SP1 computers on a RM CC4 network.
    Last edited by BassTech; 17th May 2012 at 10:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee91 View Post
    We beleive this is a permissions error that's being set somewhere in group policy, but we cannot find anything which would be blocking it from running.
    It probably wants more rights on the local machine, like local Power User or local Admin or something...

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    I've looked at the local permissions, even giving normal users full access to C:\ as a test but still no luck

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    Have you tried making a test user a local admin...?

    *edit*

    (...oh, this is basically a web page...? If that doesn't work, could it be some kind of filtering issue...?)
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    dosent need to write somewhere in the registry does it?

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    Tried making a test user a local admin, same thing. It's not filtering because our filter policy is the same for admins and normal users plus the web address is in our "allowed" list of websites.

    I'm not sure if it writes to the registry, I've tried running procmon and had an in-depth look but couldn't pick out anything that is being blocked for normal users..

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    Strange - I can see why you're looking at GPOs then. Could maybe try adding them in one at a time to see where it breaks...? Bit of a nuisance though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee91 View Post
    It's not filtering because our filter policy is the same for admins and normal users plus the web address is in our "allowed" list of websites.
    What filter are you using? I was looking at this app today for one of our ICT teachers. It wasn't working because our proxy (TMG 2010) wasn't letting it connect to the Internet... Java was trying to authenticate anonymously so I had to create a new rule for the (inbuilt) "All Users" group rather than just our "Staff" or "Students" groups, to connect to *.mit.edu. ('All Users' doesn't require any authentication).
    Bingo... now it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kearton View Post
    What filter are you using? I was looking at this app today for one of our ICT teachers. It wasn't working because our proxy (TMG 2010) wasn't letting it connect to the Internet... Java was trying to authenticate anonymously so I had to create a new rule for the (inbuilt) "All Users" group rather than just our "Staff" or "Students" groups, to connect to *.mit.edu. ('All Users' doesn't require any authentication).
    Bingo... now it works.
    Just spotted this thread and can confirm this solution worked for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kearton View Post
    What filter are you using? I was looking at this app today for one of our ICT teachers. It wasn't working because our proxy (TMG 2010) wasn't letting it connect to the Internet... Java was trying to authenticate anonymously so I had to create a new rule for the (inbuilt) "All Users" group rather than just our "Staff" or "Students" groups, to connect to *.mit.edu. ('All Users' doesn't require any authentication).
    Bingo... now it works.
    We use RM SmartCache 2.

    We cannot edit the default groups that RM have set up. I've noticed that there is one called "RM Proxy Bypass List" - Wondering if *.mit.edu needs to be added to here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee91 View Post
    We use RM SmartCache 2.

    We cannot edit the default groups that RM have set up. I've noticed that there is one called "RM Proxy Bypass List" - Wondering if *.mit.edu needs to be added to here?
    You need to turn off authentication for that URL

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    You need to turn off authentication for that URL
    Thing is, why would it work for our administrator account? We only use the "Default" policy which is used by both staff, students and administrators - which makes me think that it's nothing to do with our proxy server.
    I would try it, but with RM SmartCache 2 you have to reboot the server every time you add an exception to the proxy authentication list which takes the internet offline for around 15 minutes...

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    I'm not really that clued up about smartcache.
    Presumably it is authenticating to smarcache as "administrator". The issue is that the app doesn't work if the proxy requires any form of authentication. Other proxies allow you to prevent certain sites from needing authentication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    I'm not really that clued up about smartcache.
    Presumably it is authenticating to smarcache as "administrator". The issue is that the app doesn't work if the proxy requires any form of authentication. Other proxies allow you to prevent certain sites from needing authentication.
    We can prevent sites from needing authentication, but we have to reboot the server everytime we add a site to the list, which is a pain! Will have to come in early and try it, will post results.

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    coo. I think i misread your last post anyway.

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