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    Anyone gone 64 bit windows 7 (should i down this route)

    just changing our teacher machines but wanted to get 64bit windows for the performance and use of ram

    what problems have you encountered

    we use

    sims
    office
    cs5 master collection
    audacity
    monkeyjam
    mind genius
    scratch
    openoffice
    promethean whiteboards activstudio (possible free upgrade to inspire)

    what gotchas should i look out for as we currently have some macs bootcamped to windows 7 32 bit and they seem quite ok

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    Promethean works ok with Activeprimary, using the latest Active manager driver and works fine.
    teachers need more than 4GB of ram im surprised

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    You're more likely to have problems with peripherals than software, in particular printer drivers. You'll need to have 64-bit drivers available and installed on the server for any of your shared printers you want the 64-bit clients to connect to.

    As for your above list, Audacity, Scratch, and Office will be fine. Don't be tempted to install the 64-bit version of Office, as it won't be compatible with a lot of plugins and even Microsoft recommend against using it unless you really need it (hint: you don't). I would be very surprised if OpenOffice had any problems, and CS5 should have no fewer problems than it does with anything else

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    our printserver is windows server 2003 do i need 64bit drivers for this also

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    also the more ram the better i say as we are trying to future proof our system so was looking at i5s with 8 gig of ram as they turn out pretty cheap sub 400 mark

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    If you use Nova-T4 with SIMS still that's not compatible with 64 bit...

    We've been using several for a while and the only issues we've had has been printer drivers, quite a lot of our smaller printer (that I'm trying to get shut of anyway) don't have drivers available for either Windows 7 at all, or just not 64 bit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by round2it View Post
    also the more ram the better i say as we are trying to future proof our system so was looking at i5s with 8 gig of ram as they turn out pretty cheap sub 400 mark
    What warranty are you looking at on those? Seems a good price for i5's, particularly if it's a 5 year warranty

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    3 years

    so 32bit is the way to go i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by round2it View Post
    our printserver is windows server 2003 do i need 64bit drivers for this also
    YES... The amount of problems with printing/allocating printers that we've had to sort out at different places because new printers were install with only their 32bit drivers by another person/organisation has been a bit of a headache (especially trying to find some of the drivers)...

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    i think im decided now

    windows 7 32 bit it is

    premier pro installed on our other machines fine with 32 os so i might get the 64bit with 32bit downgrade option

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    when i started going win7 i went straight to x64 servers already were so printers is less hassle than x86.

    sims nrmal worksations are fine
    office fine but as said use x86 though ive been running x64 on my laptop and never had an issue
    cs5 master collection no idea
    audacity fine iirc
    monkeyjam pass
    mind genius pass
    scratch fine but it creates a duff shortcut
    openoffice fine
    promethean whiteboards activstudio (possible free upgrade to inspire) no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by round2it View Post
    i think im decided now

    windows 7 32 bit it is

    premier pro installed on our other machines fine with 32 os so i might get the 64bit with 32bit downgrade option
    Anything CS5 on up in the video editing suite of programs requires a 64bit OS; this will include Premier Pro and After Effects.

    System requirements | Adobe Premiere Pro

    We made the switch to 64bit last school year and haven't come up across any serious issues. What you really need to do though is build an x32 and x64 image and run them side by side with your software load out before making a definite decision.

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    Printer drivers are the main bug-bear with 64bit. If you can get the correct ones added to your server then alls well but dont rely on the HP Universal Driver!! It really slows things down at login!

    Also, I only install 32bit Office due to the plug-in issues. Not had a problem with anything else really, 32bit software installing into the Program Files (x86) seems to work just fine.

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    We have stuck with 32-bit machines for now as only the laptops we purchased last year for some teachers had 4GB of RAM (anything we buy now has a minimum of 4GB). Most teachers have maybe 2GB on their current laptops. Also, I wanted to stick with 32-bit since some of our classrooms still use some pretty old software (mostly special ed stuff) that I never got to try out on 64 bit machines for any compatibility issues. However, I'm thinking that enough time has passed so that I will probably start switching them over next school year...

    Round2It: What kind of machines were you looking at that have an i5 proc and 8GB for under $400...seems like a pretty good deal and we're getting ready to replace a couple labs worth of machines (maybe 60-90 machines). I have quotes from several companies on mostly Lenovos (we've had great luck with them past few years after being burned badly by MPC) and most of them (looking at All in One Thinkcentres) cost $600 - $800.

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    The 8 gig is a special deal with ac manager but the standard 4 gig is here
    Fujitsu Esprimo E400 Small Form Factor PC / Intel Core i5-2320 / 4GB / 500GB / Windows 7 Professional / 3 Year Warranty Upgrade - www.misco.co.uk





    Intel® Core™ i5-2320 - 3.00GHz Processor
    4GB RAM DDR3 / 500GB Hard Disk Drive
    DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM
    Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (includes 32-bit recovery media)
    3 Year On-site Warranty Upgrade

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