+ Post New Thread
Results 1 to 8 of 8
Windows 7 Thread, Windows 7 Ultimate in use in schools? in Technical; Hi Currently starting to investigate\plan for migration to Windows 7 \ Server 2008 from fully xp \ 2003 domain and ...
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    scotland
    Posts
    45
    Thank Post
    15
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0

    Windows 7 Ultimate in use in schools?

    Hi

    Currently starting to investigate\plan for migration to Windows 7 \ Server 2008 from fully xp \ 2003 domain and hit a problem straight away. We are an independant school and usually just purchase licences as and when we need them; we are not part of any schools agreement. I contacted an agency, well a national government body here in scotland, where we get education prices to ask for prices for windows 7 pro and ultimate and was told that the Ultimate Licences are not suitable for use in schools. They are for Student and Home use only? Is this correct?
    My plan was to install Windows 7 Pro on all desktops but then use Ultimate on the small number of staff laptops to make use of bitlocker.

    Im confused, can anyone advise if what i have been told is true? Is anyone running Ultimate in school on school networks? or is it Pro only?
    Thanks
    gmiller

  2. #2

    nephilim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Dunstable
    Posts
    11,101
    Thank Post
    1,430
    Thanked 1,693 Times in 1,266 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    364
    Get Windows 7 enterprise. Essentialky the same as ultimate, but without the games.

  3. 2 Thanks to nephilim:

    gmiller (22nd December 2010), maark (22nd December 2010)

  4. #3

    Ric_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    London
    Posts
    7,582
    Thank Post
    107
    Thanked 761 Times in 592 Posts
    Rep Power
    179
    IIRC there isn't a volume license version of Ultimate which is probably why you couldn't get pricing. nephilim is corerct in that Enterprise has all the same features and that is the version you want to go for because of features like Bitlocker. The catch is, though, that Windows 7 Enterprise is only available a Software Assurance benefit which attracts an annual fee. By far the most cost effective way of making the move is to get a Schools Agreement but you should wait until the licensing model changes. More details on this can be seen at Licensing changes for schools - there's good news coming at BETT - Microsoft UK Schools blog - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

  5. 3 Thanks to Ric_:

    gmiller (22nd December 2010), maark (22nd December 2010), nephilim (22nd December 2010)

  6. #4

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Durham
    Posts
    129
    Thank Post
    1
    Thanked 30 Times in 28 Posts
    Rep Power
    24
    Ric is correct; there is no volume license for Ultimate. However there's nothing to stop you purchasing it for a handful of PCs and it is valid for use in schools, you will just be loaded with a premium to buy a license for software you won't get the full benefit of. IMHO I wouldnt bother with the increase in cost to use Ultimate, unless you have a need for specific features that arent available with Professional.

  7. Thanks to riffleman from:

    gmiller (22nd December 2010)

  8. #5


    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    6,210
    Thank Post
    218
    Thanked 812 Times in 694 Posts
    Rep Power
    274
    unless you need bitlocker (so laptops really) why not use pro?

  9. #6
    jamesfed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Reading
    Posts
    2,145
    Thank Post
    127
    Thanked 326 Times in 275 Posts
    Rep Power
    81
    Ultimate praticly is Enterprise edition - like someone has already said its only realy ideal for Notebook if you need BitLocker unless you want the features like Federated Search and Branch Cachce (full run down at this link).

    As were under a schools agreement we do run all our Windows 7 PCs with Enterprise but thats only to keep images down to a min.

  10. #7


    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    51.405546, -0.510212
    Posts
    8,122
    Thank Post
    203
    Thanked 2,386 Times in 1,766 Posts
    Rep Power
    703
    Quote Originally Posted by gmiller View Post
    was told that the Ultimate Licences are not suitable for use in schools. They are for Student and Home use only? Is this correct?
    That is not quite true. My school purchased over 50 new staff laptops last summer from Dell with licenses for Windows 7 Ultimate (also downgradable to XP Pro). There were several reasons we did this:

    1) There wasn't any money available for a Schools Agreement.
    2) We wanted BitLocker / BitLocker To Go, the MUI packs (for MFL) and AppLocker which are only available in the Enterprise and Ultimate editions.
    3) The price difference over the Professional edition was negligible.

  11. #8


    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    51.405546, -0.510212
    Posts
    8,122
    Thank Post
    203
    Thanked 2,386 Times in 1,766 Posts
    Rep Power
    703
    The only bad thing about Ultimate is that it is only supported by Microsoft until 13/01/2015 versus 14/01/2020 for Enterprise. Something to keep in mind if you do not plan on upgrading to Windows 8 within that timeframe.

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Android tablets vs iPads vs Windows in schools
    By Dos_Box in forum Netbooks, PDA and Phones
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 8th December 2010, 06:26 PM
  2. [For Sale] Windows 7 Ultimate - Limited Edition
    By Bluetooth in forum Classified Adverts
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 18th January 2010, 03:32 PM
  3. Windows 7 and Schools Agreement
    By Simcfc73 in forum Windows 7
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 24th July 2009, 01:39 PM
  4. [For Sale] Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32bit OEM
    By CSNM-Carl in forum Classified Adverts
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 2nd July 2009, 04:22 PM
  5. Windows 2008 Training for Schools in Warwickshire
    By Leeoakley in forum Windows Server 2008
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 28th April 2009, 02:05 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •