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Windows 7 Thread, Windows XP, great new look in Technical; Originally Posted by Quackers Cannot do that, as that only effects me. I need the default to be this for ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quackers View Post
    Cannot do that, as that only effects me. I need the default to be this for EVERYONE.
    Lots of information on that here, including Microsoft's official way of doing it - Controlling Libraries with Group Policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    If you buy a retail copy of Windows 7 your product key will work with both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions. With an OEM copy of Windows, this is not possible. You either buy the 32-bit version or the 64-bit version. This is why the latter is cheaper (111 vs 78). If you buy a PC from an OEM such as Dell or HP there is a way to switch between the x86 and x64 editions, but technically it wouldn't be legal.
    you may only get one disk with oem but the code does work with both x86 and x64

    as to adding hdcp to windows xp why would ms put money into something that may not even be sensibly doab le it may require a major rewrite of code not to mention vendors then having to rewrite drivers etc its just not going to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    Considering the problems with IE5, IE6, IE7 and IE8 I can't see anyone rushing out to replace their machines and operating systems just to run IE9.

    Windows Live Essentials works perfectly well here.

    Considering Microsoft put their faith in HD-DVD I can understand why they don't support Blu-Ray. Although other posters have stated otherwise. And I'd like to see the figures of how many people have Blu Ray in their PCs and use it, as opposed to a PS3 or dedicated player.

    It was reported recently in the media that 76% of businesses are still running Windows XP for many reasons. Calling them "Luddites" is very ignorant and shows how little you know about computing in the wider field.



    I've just logged into the MS Licensing Centre and there are 25 choices of Windows 7 to download. So much for your "single DVD with all editions of Windows 7".

    Incidentally, what part of the IT curriculum teaches the complexities of using an OS to the point that the task will only work on one OS and not a previous one? As far as I'm aware you still create folders and shortcuts the same way in Vista and 7 as you do in XP.

    Just because pupils might run 7 and Vista at home (probably because it came pre-loaded and they didn't get a choice to get XP) doesn't mean its the "perfect" OS. They also use PS3s and XBOXes and Wiis, but that doesn't mean we have to teach that technology to them in school.

    Sadly, Microsoft have "dumbed down" their OS. First with Vista, and continued with 7.
    Microsoft obviously lost the HD-DVD vs Blu Ray war - no need to say anymore there.

    Ref not fitting 25 on one dvd - Most of windows 7 will be the same excluding the home edition and the ultimate or business equivelant so if you were only doing 2 or 3 variants then you would have no need for 25 editions of it.

    I mean why make ultimate / professional editions which don't afaik have much difference between them, surely thats a waste of time and effort.

    I agree, windows vista and 7 is dumb....ed down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quackers View Post
    Cannot do that, as that only effects me. I need the default to be this for EVERYONE.
    Make the changes to your account and then over write the all users profile with whatever settings you want as default - would this resolve that issue ?

    Then you can image it afterwards and use said image to image other pc's

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    I reluctantly started using Windows 7 in April after being a long-time XP user (and 2000 for a long time before that). On the whole, I rather like Windows 7. I've listed below what I feel are my personal likes and dislikes based on how I'm used to working.

    Likes

    • Wallpaper slideshow
    • System tray icon management
    • Start menu buttons without titles
    • Jump lists
    • Start menu search
    • Windows Explorer Favourites
    • Windows Explorer address bar breadcrumbs
    • Windows Explorer search box
    • Windows Explorer keyboard shortcuts (Alt + Up to go up a level)
    • Font installation is vastly improved


    Dislikes

    • Start Menu. My old way of launching programs was quick and efficient - Win key followed by letters. (this screenshot might help explain). Can't do this in Windows 7. I've resorted to pinning most-used apps to the start menu for when I feel like clicking. The others I use Start Menu search to launch - but the delay between typing and showing the result is longer than my 'XP' way of doing it.
    • Still no native virtual desktops like Linux

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    Quote Originally Posted by webman View Post
    My old way of launching programs was quick and efficient - Win key followed by letters. Can't do this in Windows 7.
    The new way is just as fast IME. In 7 you can press the Windows key and type the first few letters of the program name to launch it. For example, Windows Key + No, will open Notepad. You can do this without touching the mouse or looking at your screen.

    Also, if you have applications pinned to the taskbar, you can press Windows key + 1 to 9 to open each program (going from left to right). On my computer, Internet Explorer is Win Key + 1.

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    Whatever the good and bad of Microsoft operataing systems, we have to admit that MS is in most schools, I have already found I have been forced to windows 7 because certain functions were failing on XP SP3, offline files was one. Whether this is a policy by MS to force businesses/education to go to an upgrade is debatable or whether it was my lack of troubleshooting the problem. We are now all win 7 and server 2008r2 and I can honestly say our support calls have reduced dramatically, it just works and is very stable. There are many hurdles and of course the cost of doing so, but over the next few years everyone will have to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    Windows Live Essentials works perfectly well here.
    Microsoft have dropped XP support for the latest version of Windows Live Essentials (Wave 4). I don't use it myself because iLife on my Mac is far better. I can see a lot of other software developers doing the same between now and 2014. Adobe would be a good bet with CS6 or CS7.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    Considering the problems with IE5, IE6, IE7 and IE8 I can't see anyone rushing out to replace their machines and operating systems just to run IE9.
    Your question was "Which apps are incompatible with XP?" I was just listing the ones that will not work at all on XP. What problems are you referring to with IE?

    Obviously no one will replace their computer just to run the latest browser from Microsoft, but they might, if for example they bought an expensive printer/MFD which only has drivers for Vista and 7.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    Considering Microsoft put their faith in HD-DVD I can understand why they don't support Blu-Ray.
    How do people play and burn Blu-Ray's on their Windows PCs if Microsoft doesn't support it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    It was reported recently in the media that 76% of businesses are still running Windows XP for many reasons. Calling them "Luddites" is very ignorant and shows how little you know about computing in the wider field.
    There are two very different groups of people who are still using XP - home users and businesses. I was referring to the people in the first group - particularly those who refuse to learn anything new even when there are better or faster ways of doing the same task. I am fully aware that a lot of businesses cannot upgrade to newer OSs due to software and hardware compatibility issues. My school even has software which will only work with Internet Explorer which is incredibly frustrating when you normally use different web browsers (Firefox, Chrome & Safari).

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    I've just logged into the MS Licensing Centre and there are 25 choices of Windows 7 to download.
    Were you counting the N and VL editions in that 25? These are just minor variations of the other editions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    So much for your "single DVD with all editions of Windows 7".
    As you well know, there are only six editions in total - Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate & Enterprise. For most people the first five editions are the only ones which count and these all fit on a single disc. The only reason Enterprise isn't included on the same disc is due to the way it is licensed, not because it won't fit. It will if you use Microsoft's ImageX tool. To do the same with Windows XP is much more difficult, although not impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    Just because pupils might run 7 and Vista at home (probably because it came pre-loaded and they didn't get a choice to get XP) doesn't mean its the "perfect" OS. They also use PS3s and XBOXes and Wiis, but that doesn't mean we have to teach that technology to them in school.
    Windows 7 is by no means perfect, but it's a lot better than XP in many ways. Students at my school are constantly asking why are we still using XP. In our case, it is because we are stuck with CC3 (for the time being at least). When you are using an OS which is older than some of the students, you know it's time to upgrade. Would you seriously use Windows NT4 Workstation when everyone else is using XP?

    One of the problems with students using newer OSs at home compared to what the school has, is when the software they use no longer works with XP. Windows Live Movie Maker is very good example. Students do thier homework in this, bring it into school and then can't open the project file because it is incompatible with XP Movie Maker - we can't install WLMM even if we wanted to because it doesn't run at all on XP. The further a school falls behind technology-wise, the worse it gets for the students, staff and the IT people who support the network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    The new way is just as fast IME. In 7 you can press the Windows key and type the first few letters of the program name to launch it. For example, Windows Key + No, will open Notepad. You can do this without touching the mouse or looking at your screen.
    On my computer it takes longer to search than it would have done to hit Win key and 2-3 letters to launch it. I hit Win, type a few letters of the program, wait for it to bring back the result (2-3 seconds), then choose the right one if more than one result is returned.

    I do use it; but I prefer my old way as it worked well for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webman View Post
    On my computer it takes longer to search than it would have done to hit Win key and 2-3 letters to launch it.
    It seems a computer with a fast HDD or SSD makes all the difference when it comes to searching from the start menu. On mine, it takes less than 2 seconds to launch a program via this method.

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    In that case I'll have to source a faster hard drive

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    Win + P = Presentation mode selection. This looks great for whiteboard machines! Currently I am thwarted at most attempts to make cloning the screen easy by MS, ATI, Nvidia or a combination.

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