+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 33
Windows 7 Thread, First day of use in anger and... I am angry in Technical; This is the first time I have sat down and done work on W7 and I've managed to crash explorer. ...
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    North
    Posts
    1,817
    Thank Post
    24
    Thanked 91 Times in 71 Posts
    Rep Power
    50

    First day of use in anger and... I am angry

    This is the first time I have sat down and done work on W7 and I've managed to crash explorer.

    It started when i tried to burn things using explorer, multiple new discs were spat out then when I tried to cancel the copy process its messed it up altogether and I cannot restart explorer in Task Manager.

    A few things are niggling me in it now which XP did better so I am tempted to go back.. I don't want to but its not playing fair with my other programs

    Now for a reboot

    PS. its actually crashed so badly that it won't open any explorer windows.

  2. #2

    mac_shinobi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    9,705
    Thank Post
    3,239
    Thanked 1,045 Times in 967 Posts
    Rep Power
    363
    Quote Originally Posted by Simcfc73 View Post
    This is the first time I have sat down and done work on W7 and I've managed to crash explorer.

    It started when i tried to burn things using explorer, multiple new discs were spat out then when I tried to cancel the copy process its messed it up altogether and I cannot restart explorer in Task Manager.

    A few things are niggling me in it now which XP did better so I am tempted to go back.. I don't want to but its not playing fair with my other programs

    Now for a reboot
    If you had a mac .................. you wouldn't have these problems

  3. #3

    Geoff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Fylde, Lancs, UK.
    Posts
    11,803
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 583 Times in 504 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    224
    Well maybe. What hardware are you running it on? Maybe driver bugs are eating your disks. As my HP machine is fine. But then it would be as it's listed as supported...

  4. #4

    EduTech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Reading
    Posts
    5,037
    Thank Post
    160
    Thanked 908 Times in 712 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    Rep Power
    270
    I must admit, Windows7 has been runing fine for me for months now! (around 6 months)

    Latley what happens is my laptop uses around 3.5gb of RAM, and i cant open Explorer!! so i have to end explorer.exe and then it works! but it happens about every 30 minutes.

    I thought it might be laptop.. but just havent had time to look at it yet.

    James.

  5. #5

    mac_shinobi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    9,705
    Thank Post
    3,239
    Thanked 1,045 Times in 967 Posts
    Rep Power
    363
    Quote Originally Posted by Simcfc73 View Post
    This is the first time I have sat down and done work on W7 and I've managed to crash explorer.

    It started when i tried to burn things using explorer, multiple new discs were spat out then when I tried to cancel the copy process its messed it up altogether and I cannot restart explorer in Task Manager.

    A few things are niggling me in it now which XP did better so I am tempted to go back.. I don't want to but its not playing fair with my other programs

    Now for a reboot

    PS. its actually crashed so badly that it won't open any explorer windows.
    Is this when you are using a dedicated burning app ie nero or cdburner xp se or deep burner

  6. #6

    SYNACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    11,041
    Thank Post
    852
    Thanked 2,666 Times in 2,263 Posts
    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    767
    I have to admit to a dislike of Windows 7 and a prefference to Vista. The beta for 7 was fantastic but has gone down hill ever since. I have the x64 build on my main laptop which is not slow and is a fully speced out hp for Vista. It hangs for seconds at a time when opening files and takes 2-3 seconds to resume playback of a video file.

    It does boot a little faster but in almost every test Vista is faster and more reliable. This is still RC software but given the direction they have been taking with it so far I am not hopefull for the RTM and will probably end up sticking with Vista on all stations untill they get it sorted out.

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Elgin, Scotland
    Posts
    387
    Thank Post
    1
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Rep Power
    23
    I would agree with Geoff here and suggest looking at your drivers - in particular, the graphics adaptor, motherboard chipset and storage controller drivers.

    I've been running 7 on one of my laptops since the beta was released, and I've since upgraded it to RC (using the hack that allows you to actually upgrade) and everything runs fine. I've also run it on a second laptop since RC release and it too runs fantastic (apart from needing a bit more RAM, but that's not a 7 problem).

    Synack, I would also suggest for yourself to look at either your M/B chipset drivers or your storage controller drivers as it sounds like a 'read from hard drive' issue.

    Hope that helps guys.

    Rob.

  8. #8

    EduTech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Reading
    Posts
    5,037
    Thank Post
    160
    Thanked 908 Times in 712 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    Rep Power
    270
    Yeah suppose i should really look at my drivers, as i do have 2 that have not been (PCI Stuff) that i have never been able to find the drivers for..

    Hopefully Dell will release drivers for windows 7 soon enough.

    James.

  9. #9

    nephilim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Dunstable
    Posts
    11,760
    Thank Post
    1,623
    Thanked 1,877 Times in 1,395 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    422
    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    If you had a mac .................. you wouldn't have these problems
    Also if you had a mac, you would owe your mortgage to pay for it!

    Windows 7 has worked perfectly for me!

  10. #10

    synaesthesia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Northamptonshire
    Posts
    5,869
    Thank Post
    574
    Thanked 998 Times in 770 Posts
    Blog Entries
    15
    Rep Power
    461
    Same here, but I'm starting to express caution over the different hardware combinations - there are numerous people reporting issue with particular types of setup. But that's no surprise - the same can still be said of XP even now, and certainly Vista. So, we'll see how RTM pans out as well as driver development. And let's remember, we can't expect decent drivers out of idiots like Logitech and Creative, and there's plenty others with problems too.

  11. #11

    SYNACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    11,041
    Thank Post
    852
    Thanked 2,666 Times in 2,263 Posts
    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    767
    The thing that concerns me is how badly it runs on so much of the hardware at the moment. I have tried it on several systems with and without driver upgrades and have had bad results on almost all of them. If it was isolated I would not be so concerned but from my experience this is not isolated to a small subset of hardware. Hardware which runs Vista fine - with the same driver model and vast amounts of the same core code but for the moment much better results.

    Maybe MS is angry at hp for some reason that is the only logical conclusion that I can come up with thus far.

  12. #12

    Theblacksheep's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    In a house.
    Posts
    1,931
    Thank Post
    138
    Thanked 290 Times in 210 Posts
    Rep Power
    193
    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    Maybe MS is angry at hp for some reason that is the only logical conclusion that I can come up with thus far.
    I've got HP 7800 desktop and 6715b laptop that both run it fine.... what sort of PCs you having trouble with?

    tried the 7600+ build?

  13. #13

    synaesthesia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Northamptonshire
    Posts
    5,869
    Thank Post
    574
    Thanked 998 Times in 770 Posts
    Blog Entries
    15
    Rep Power
    461
    I've had exactly the opposite experience - hardware which Vista really struggles on is a complete dream with 7, regardless of the build. And please be careful of the so called 7600 builds - many are rebadged RC's full of "nasty extras"

    I still think it's a matter of drivers/3rd party support.

  14. #14


    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    6,576
    Thank Post
    228
    Thanked 852 Times in 731 Posts
    Rep Power
    294
    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    If you had a mac .................. you wouldn't have these problems
    ha been playing with a mac over the weekend and it crashes more than vista imo no crashes for a while in vista adding photos to iphoto 2 crashes in 24 hours

  15. #15

    SYNACK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    11,041
    Thank Post
    852
    Thanked 2,666 Times in 2,263 Posts
    Blog Entries
    9
    Rep Power
    767
    hp nw9440, hp d330m (old but runs vista ok) , hp 6730b, several non branded computer built from components, mostly gigabyte and ASUS boards with core 2 processors.

    Have not tried the 7600 builds just the official MS ones. To be clear, not all of them are abjectly bad, just slower than a Vista SP2 build. For an OS designed to be faster than Vista to appease the media poisoned opinion of Vista it does not actually appear to run better or even the same in some cases.

    Some of my issues are with IE8 on the platform. It runs flawlessly under Vista for me but lags and locks on the 7 platform. VPN network connectivity is also slower than the near instant responce that was possible under the past OSs.

    Personally I don't really like the superbar either as it is simply not as quick as the old taskbar. Sure I can understand where it is comming from in a mulitasking kind of way but For the moment is is still slower. I think that the UI poisoning of some aspects from the Apple camp have hurt the actual useability despite the research into it I still find the breadcrums navigation annoying in Vista, 7 and OSX.

    As I said I am sure that it will get better and may have already (higher builds) but the trend from beta to RC still worries me. I guess that I will see in 10 days but I still forsee a delay in my implementation untill they get it all sorted. I am running the x64 7 version now to a limited extent just to get used to the platform anyway as even with a staged deployment it is only a year away from being in common use by a signifigant chunk of people.

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Anger at school ban on short skirts
    By FN-GM in forum General Chat
    Replies: 56
    Last Post: 26th June 2009, 03:52 PM
  2. LGFL MLE - This made me soooooo angry.
    By budgester in forum Virtual Learning Platforms
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: 31st January 2007, 01:08 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •