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    i say that was a speedy reply chap.
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPstv View Post
    i say that was a speedy reply chap.
    Thank you
    im just doing it myself to some netbooks lol

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    Thanks again chap,
    Off to my other school and roll this puppy out,it has been a complete pain in the donkey.

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    Thanks for this. It's be plaguing me at a school where we imaged a whole load of laptops, hoping this fixes the issue (usually get 1 or 2 a week minimum) so it will be good to not have to deal with this anymore. I'll give it a go when I'm in on Friday.

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    Hi,

    I'd say is be careful with the suggested answer. Windows is doing what its supposed to do - fixing a problem caused by the user forcibly halting the PC. The better answer is to stop them from being abused in the first place. You'll still probably find that the next logon takes absolutely ages as Windows is fixing WMI.

    Windows XP's used to just bluescreen when forcibly shutdown too many times - maybe 7 will just do this instead as it can't repair itself if you've disabled system restore. I think 7's solution is way better - at least you can RDP into the machine as local admin and re-domain the PC remotely rather than having to rebuild PCs instead.

    Meldrew

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    Since this issue is primarily lazy children not wanting to wait 30 seconds for it to shut down, it manifests mostly on laptops (as they can just walk away from a PC no problem, but have to wait with the laptop and put it back into the trolley) Force shutdown is going to damage the disk platters long before it does any irreparable damage to the OS.

    Another vote for disabling it startup repair (it never actually repairs anything anyway, always says it was unable to), we have the bcdedit script as an application that we tick during deployment (MDT) and it sorts the problem out.

    You're right @Meldrew, it's certainly a squishy issue rather than a technical issue, but there's no way to stop the kids from doing it, this is the next best option.

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    Thank you so much for finally ending my misery with trust relationships! This problem has been plaguing me since Windows 7 was released!

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    Test-ComputerSecureChannel -Repair in Powershell 2.0 repairs trust failures.

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    Although resetting the secure channel can sort some trust issues, I found that it didn't work very often for me.

    Have just tried that batch on some machines at work. The PCs kept having issues with trust relationships as I believe that people weren't shutting them down properly. Just flicking the power switch. Sounds like this will fix my issue. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPstv View Post
    How would you guys apply this over 90 netbooks? Group policy?
    we have 90 netbooks too! ARGH!
    Please be a group policy option!!!
    Last edited by Ed_Pinkman_13; 6th February 2014 at 03:46 PM.

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    Could do it as a startup script, leave it in for a while, then take it out. But that's a bit kludgey.

    Code:
    IF NOT EXIST "C:\BCDEDITFlag.txt" (
    BCDEDIT /set {default} recoveryenabled No
    BCDEDIT /set {default} bootstatuspolicy ignoreallfailures
    ECHO Startup Repair disabled > C:\BCDEDITFlag.txt
    )

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    batch file as a startup (not logn) script

    Code:
    if exist c:\suroff.txt goto end
    bcdedit /set {default} recoveryenabled No
    bcdedit /set {default} bootstatuspolicy ignoreallfailures
    copy \\server\share$\suroff.txt c:\suroff.txt
    
    :end
    I need to try this now!!!

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    We experience this all the time. Personally I think it's nothing to do with start-up repair. The way to solve it is simple.

    Just follow this link below, I have uploaded a short guide (PDF) format.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9n...1BYV9DeHpTaWs/

    Any problems, just @ me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBlunt View Post
    We experience this all the time. Personally I think it's nothing to do with start-up repair. The way to solve it is simple.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrPstv View Post
    "The trust relationship between this workstation and primary domain failed."

    I know it's a matter of re-connecting to the domain.
    OP mentioned rejoining the domain - thing is prevention beats a cure.
    It certainly seems to be caused by Startup Repair. Since we started disabling startup repair as per our imaging process, this has occurred less and less.

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    I disabled Startup Repair in both my schools and I get very few trust relationship issues anymore. It is definitely related to the netbooks not being shut down properly - at the junior school the teachers stand over the children till the netbook has shut down but at the middle school the children take the netbooks back to the trolley, often in another block, by themselves and I reckon they just shut them in order to get away quickly. @CBlunt I think you might find that people have already said taking things off the domain and putting them back on again solves it.

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