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    windows 7 start menu HELP BEER REWARD!

    I’m pulling my hair out now (or should I say pulled) so a crate of beer to the first person who can help me! Yes I will deliver a crate to your door….

    Domain Controllers 2008r2
    File Servers 2003r2
    Main desktops XP

    Issue:
    We are going down the windows 7 route, better late than never! I have got EVERYTHING to work how I want it other than it mapping the start menu.
    We are using profiles .man.v2 and I don’t want to change that, they work well. I have copied over the start menu from where it lives in our XP profiles to windows 7. I know the start menu is called something different in windows 7.

    Already tried:

    • Folder redirection on the start menu
    (Windows 7 Start Menu Redirection)
    • Unticking hide protected operating system files
    • Copying the files the C:\ of the machine to test it – still does not show up and wouldn’t work if we added extra software automatically

    Any help would be great, and the beer will turn up!
    Last edited by RichB; 4th March 2013 at 06:52 PM.

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    If you're using a mandatory profile, can't you just drop it into the default Appdata of that profile?

    MyProfile.V2\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Sta rt Menu\Programs

    Should show up with hidden/system files on.

    Or am I missing something?

    *Edit - Or use that path for a full redirect if you prefer, or are you saying that path isn't working at all?

    Steve
    Last edited by Steve21; 4th March 2013 at 05:53 PM.

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    The start menu redirection is funny with Windows 7. You need to enable show common programs on the start menu in gpo in order for the redirected menu to actually work.
    Force Classic Start Menu and Remove Users Folders from the start menu also break the redirection.

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    Our polices are set as follows;

    User Policies > Administrative Templates > Start Menu & Task Bar:

    Policy Setting Comment

    Add "Run in Separate Memory Space" check box to Run dialog box Disabled
    Add Logoff to the Start Menu Enabled
    Add Search Internet link to Start Menu Disabled
    Add the Run command to the Start Menu Disabled
    Change Start Menu power button Enabled
    Choose one of the following actions Log off
    Clear history of recently opened documents on exit Enabled
    Clear the recent programs list for new users Disabled
    Do not allow pinning items in Jump Lists Enabled
    Do not allow pinning programs to the Taskbar Enabled
    Do not display any custom toolbars in the taskbar Enabled
    Do not display or track items in Jump Lists from remote locations Enabled
    Do not keep history of recently opened documents Enabled
    Do not search communications Enabled
    Do not search for files Disabled
    Do not search Internet Enabled
    Do not search programs and Control Panel items Disabled
    Do not use the search-based method when resolving shell shortcuts Disabled
    Do not use the tracking-based method when resolving shell shortcuts Disabled
    Force classic Start Menu Disabled
    Gray unavailable Windows Installer programs Start Menu shortcuts Enabled
    Hide the notification area Enabled
    Lock all taskbar settings Enabled
    Lock the Taskbar Enabled
    Prevent changes to Taskbar and Start Menu Settings Enabled
    Prevent grouping of taskbar items Enabled
    Prevent users from adding or removing toolbars Enabled
    Prevent users from moving taskbar to another screen dock location Enabled
    Prevent users from rearranging toolbars Enabled
    Prevent users from resizing the taskbar Enabled
    Remove access to the context menus for the taskbar Enabled
    Remove All Programs list from the Start menu Disabled
    Remove and prevent access to the Shut Down, Restart, Sleep, and Hibernate commands Disabled
    Remove Balloon Tips on Start Menu items Enabled
    Remove Clock from the system notification area Disabled
    Remove common program groups from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove Default Programs link from the Start menu. Enabled
    Remove Documents icon from Start Menu Disabled
    Remove Downloads link from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove drag-and-drop and context menus on the Start Menu Enabled
    Remove Favorites menu from Start Menu Disabled
    Remove frequent programs list from the Start Menu Disabled
    Remove Games link from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove Help menu from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove Homegroup link from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove links and access to Windows Update Enabled
    Remove Logoff on the Start Menu Disabled
    Remove Music icon from Start Menu Disabled
    Remove Network Connections from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove Network icon from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove Pictures icon from Start Menu Disabled
    Remove pinned programs from the Taskbar Enabled
    Remove pinned programs list from the Start Menu Disabled
    Remove programs on Settings menu Disabled
    Remove Recent Items menu from Start Menu Disabled
    Remove Recorded TV link from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove Run menu from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove Search Computer link Enabled
    Remove Search link from Start Menu Enabled
    Remove See More Results / Search Everywhere link Enabled
    Remove the "Undock PC" button from the Start Menu Enabled
    Remove the Action Center icon Enabled
    Remove the battery meter Disabled
    Remove the networking icon Enabled
    Remove the volume control icon Disabled
    Remove user folder link from Start Menu Disabled
    Remove user name from Start Menu Disabled
    Remove user's folders from the Start Menu Disabled
    Remove Videos link from Start Menu Disabled
    Show QuickLaunch on Taskbar Disabled
    Turn off all balloon notifications Enabled
    Turn off automatic promotion of notification icons to the taskbar Enabled
    Turn off feature advertisement balloon notifications Enabled
    Turn off notification area cleanup Enabled
    Turn off personalized menus Disabled
    Turn off taskbar thumbnails Disabled
    Turn off user tracking Enabled

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    no app data folder even with hidden folders shown

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyc View Post
    The start menu redirection is funny with Windows 7. You need to enable show common programs on the start menu in gpo in order for the redirected menu to actually work.
    Force Classic Start Menu and Remove Users Folders from the start menu also break the redirection.
    Will give this a try in the morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyc View Post
    The start menu redirection is funny with Windows 7. You need to enable show common programs on the start menu in gpo in order for the redirected menu to actually work.
    Force Classic Start Menu and Remove Users Folders from the start menu also break the redirection.
    any idea where this is in GP done a search but cannot find it!

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    The setting for common program groups is here: gpsearch.azurewebsites.net/#4636

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    Given it a go still no luck! was hoping for a quick fix this morning....

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    Have you tried just dropping one into AppData? Even if it doesn't exist currently. Unless you have it redirected that's where it should normally sit. (At least I think it is)

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    One thing that caught me out was that the Win7 redirected start menu requires your shortcuts to be inside a Programs folder e.g. redirect with GP to \\server\share\Win7StartMenu but actually put all your shortcuts into \\server\share\Win7StartMenu\Programs

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    There is no app data on the profile, inclduing hidden files. do you mean PC based?

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    anymore ideas people?

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    Set these two keys via a GPO to redirect the Start Menu?

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

    Value name Programs
    Value type REG_EXPAND_SZ
    Value data \\server\share\Start Menu\Programs

    Value name Start Menu
    Value type REG_EXPAND_SZ
    Value data \\server\share\Start Menu

    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJWhite1970 View Post
    Set these two keys via a GPO to redirect the Start Menu?

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

    Value name Programs
    Value type REG_EXPAND_SZ
    Value data \\server\share\Start Menu\Programs

    Value name Start Menu
    Value type REG_EXPAND_SZ
    Value data \\server\share\Start Menu

    Andrew
    nope..... I must be missing something so simple here!

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