Trying to speed up logons (RM CC4.3 + W7)

[Danp]

Feel like I am fighting a losing battle here, but I am going to try at least! as 5 mins for a 2 year old RM desktop to reboot to a usable desktop is not good.

One thing I have seen is a GPO that can be set

Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Logon\ Always wait for the network at computer startup and logon

We have gig networking for 97% of machines, so network traffic should be the issue, is anyone else using this GPO?

Any other suggestions?

[SYNACK]

Rsop logging is a big one but I heard that messing with that stuff directly in an RM network.

[X-13]

2 year old RM desktop

That's your problem right there.

Is it hanging on a specific part? Or just slow in general?


Do you use roaming profiles? If they're large, it can take a while to load them.

What about login/startup scripts? [do you got them? is they working? [Bad grammar for no reason.]]

[themightymrp]

Have you turned on verbose messages to see where the slow down is occuring? We had headaches with printer drivers causing slow logins. Or if you are using non-mandatory roaming profiles you might have a large file stuck in the profile somewhere causing the slowdown?

[Danp]

Roaming off.

Verbose on but only really shows "please wait for the user profile service" for any really length of time. How do I get a full report of whats going on? Boot log via msconfig does not really give many clues (attached from one machine)

ntbtlog.txt

[themightymrp]

This area of Event viewer should show you how long each section is taking to process:

Event Viewer --> Applications and Services --> Microsoft --> Windows --> GroupPolicy --> Operational

However if you are getting stuck on the wait for user profile service you either have a network issue in general of the profile is huge. How big is the users profile once it finishes logging in?

[psydii]

Windows 7 Slow Boot / Slow Logon (Why I do what I do) - Dude where's my PFE? - Site Home - TechNet Blogs

[Danp]

Thanks guys, I will have a look and poke about more. I have rebuilt my test machine again so it's a fresh build to play with tomorrow.

[DrCheese]

List of Performance hotfixes post SP1 for Windows 7 SP1 - The troubleshooters and problem solvers... - Site Home - TechNet Blogs

This is why MS need to make an SP2 for Windows 7 :P It would have all of these performance hotfixes rolled in. (You have to download them manually at the moment & not via WSUS)

[Danp]

This area of Event viewer should show you how long each section is taking to process:

Event Viewer --> Applications and Services --> Microsoft --> Windows --> GroupPolicy --> Operational

However if you are getting stuck on the wait for user profile service you either have a network issue in general of the profile is huge. How big is the users profile once it finishes logging in?

I see these on one machine

Group policy bandwidth estimation failed. Group policy processing will continue. Assuming fast link.


Group Policy dependency (Network Location Awareness) did not start. As a result, network related features of Group Policy such as bandwidth estimation and response to network changes will not work.

[psydii]

I know. We've got various combinations of 32 'hotfixes' deployed, and a few more in testing.

Quite a few are now included in WU Security updates, but once a hotfix moves you to the LDR branch you can never be sure if the Latest update to the componant via WU contains the fix from the LDR version, unless you go back and check to see if the LDR version has been replaced by a non LDR version.... oh the madness of trying to make this stuff work.

Here's a random one..
BACKSPACE or arrow keys do not work in MMC on a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2

I'd settle for a hotfix rollup pack, but since they release new versions of TCPIP SMB and CSC every six weeks or so, it would be significantly out of date before they even released it!

[Arthur]

This is why MS need to make an SP2 for Windows 7

It's called Windows 8.

[psydii]

It's called Windows 8.

Sadly so true:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2801075
"This is a known issue in Windows. This issue has been fixed in Windows 8."

[DrCheese]

BACKSPACE or arrow keys do not work in MMC on a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2

oh god that errors drives me insane! It's mostly whist editing GPO's I get it. So cheers for the fix :P

But yeah :/

[spc-rocket]

@psydii

We downloaded all the performance related fixes and inlcuded in the image before sysprep/mdt process and its working well. I've noticed that most of these also apply to server OS as well. Have you also patched your server 2008 r2 manually? with these hotfixes? I'm a bit relectant to do this just in case they break anything. It always has that silly message that this hotfix is intended to correct.....and has not gone through full regression testing... which i ignore on the client OS anyway.

Ash.