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    Website - Cookie law

    Not quite sure which section this post should be in...

    What are people doing about their school websites in light of new legislation governing cookies (EU Privacy and Communications Directive) which AFAIK comes into force on May 26th this year?

    The ICC Guide suggests that use of 'performance' cookies (track use) requires consent, so anyone with a standard Joomla install will need to seek visitors permission.

    Does anyone have a cunning plan for Joomla - say a small bit of PHP which could be used to 'record' consent to category 2 cookies?

    What about internal sites (sharepoint, moodle etc?).

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    Hi,

    We have found this Configuration | Cookie Control by CIVIC, we haven't set ours up yet.

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    Try this The Cookie law: clarity at last (but not from the ICO) | PC Pro blog

    It has a link to another agency - as the ICO have been useless.

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    There was a thread on here somewhere recently about this.

    Of course, the irony of this law is a Cookie is required to save the users preference!

    I may add a small bit of PHP to our Moodle to allow the user to choose whether they want the Google Analytics code to be loaded or not.
    Has anyone tried to use any internal IT terms and agreements/aup type policy to say they consent to tracking/statistical cookies being loaded on INTRANET applications? Naturally, this is not something you could use on a website.

    Other thread: Cookie Law
    Last edited by InterwebsGuy; 8th May 2012 at 08:54 AM. Reason: Other thread link

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    Thanks.

    It seems from the info that our Joomla based public website will be covered by including notice of cookies in the T&C's. I'm not so sure about things like Moodle, sharepoint, OWA, HAP etc, i.e. things that are intended only for staff and students. I guess we can cover them via a change to the AUP ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcstru View Post
    will be covered by including notice of cookies in the T&C's

    I've never been a fan of people who do that... Everyone knows nobody reads the T&C's, so you can't count it as informed consent.


    Le [Pre-post] EDIT: Well [censored]... according to America EULA are legally binding. [I'm guessing the same is said for T&C's]

    I need to make something that uses EULA's so I can exploit this...

    "By using this product you agree to give me [X-13] all of your money and possesions. Including, but not limited to, cash, vehicles, homes and jewelry. You also agree to relinquish all parental rights to your first born to me [X-13]. You will also be obliged to dance a merry jig on every Wednesday at approximately 12 noon."

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I've never been a fan of people who do that... Everyone knows nobody reads the T&C's, so you can't count it as informed consent.
    It's not great practice, but if you agree to an agreement without reading it (as most people do for most things, me included) then as they say, more fool you.
    But this is a topic for another day, agreements generally have you by the balls one way or another, and they know people will just agree to them as they are often many pages of legal babel that few people understand easily. This is a problem that really needs addressing somehow as no one knows what they are agreeing too - think South Park and the ITunes terms of use parody.

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    I've been working on this. I have Cookie Control setup to allow Google Analytics coding on our website 'hub' page (which sets no other cookies without consent. In the popup, I have explained that going beyond the hub to the sub-sections (eg Moodle, Joomla) will set session cookies (this is allowed as long as you explain what they are in your privacy policy). So, by continuing, their consent is given to set these cookies. The key seems to be to put the right wording in your policies and on the website, and don't set any mandatory cookies from a landing page if you can help it.

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    hmm if I wanted to use the civic cookie control on our joomla install where would I put the .js file?

    Ben

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    Ben,

    I have a js folder, which is in the root, and cookiecontrol.js lives in there.

    Jamie

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    Yeah, you can just relative link or hard link the .js file anywhere you like. I have a single root copy of it, which all the sub-sites link to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3s-gtech View Post
    Yeah, you can just relative link or hard link the .js file anywhere you like. I have a single root copy of it, which all the sub-sites link to.
    Got it sorted now stuck the script code into the template index.php and all is well.

    Ben

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    Silktide have produced a neat bit of javascript - Silktide - Get the code which appears to do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beeswax View Post
    Silktide have produced a neat bit of javascript - Silktide - Get the code which appears to do the job.
    How would i get this working with a Joomla site? could i copy it into the index.php?

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