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Web Development Thread, Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net in Coding and Web Development; Had a demo and they want 5k and £500 a year to host and support the system. Now i am ...
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    Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    Had a demo and they want 5k and £500 a year to host and support the system.

    Now i am not incarge of the website now but see this as way to much . We have Mambo now which does most things however INCO system looked eaiser for non it users to use and therefore impressed the powers that be.

    We are however soon to have kaleidos as our VLE ( i know but every in our borough will get it due to RM and BSF).

    I am not to familier with Kaleidos but i will be implementing it and supporting it . Does anyone know if i can host the website within Kaleidos?

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    had them on the phone today =;

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    we're just waiting for our smt to sign off then we're good to go. With the ease of updating dda importance we think the price is nothing compared to man hours and the rubbish press if we get a complaint for not being compliant.

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    £5,000 for a website? And £500 every year? HA! Tell them to get lost. I'm surprised they're still in business charging that amount. Joomla isn't really that bad - neither are other good open-source content management systems such as Website Baker, CMS Made Simple and Plone.

    But no, Kaleidos doesn't do websites as far as I know.

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    Quote Originally Posted by webman
    £5,000 for a website? And £500 every year? HA! Tell them to get lost. I'm surprised they're still in business charging that amount. Joomla isn't really that bad - neither are other good open-source content management systems such as Website Baker, CMS Made Simple and Plone.

    But no, Kaleidos doesn't do websites as far as I know.
    Hate to say it but that's a pretty high cost..

    That said you need to consider the cost and/or benefit (ie: keeping you gainfully employed) if you handle it another way (in-house?)... Doing something yourselves is a lot of work though and you can never underestimate a good user interface so take that lot into account.

    I'd also find out whether that £500 a year includes upgrades, etc... and what sort of usage quota (bandwidth, diskspace, etc..) that includes... If you're not careful there could be all sorts of additional charges that you sign up to at the same time.

    Oh and lastly what sort of contention is involved, ie: are you sharing the server with other schools, how many, implications for loading time, timeouts, etc... ?

    If nothing else I'd want access to a demo site for a month (minimum) to really hammer the system to see what it's failings (if any) are..

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    Quote Originally Posted by boosting
    we're just waiting for our smt to sign off then we're good to go. With the ease of updating dda importance we think the price is nothing compared to man hours and the rubbish press if we get a complaint for not being compliant.
    Without wishing to insult here but could you give a little more info about yourself "boosting"... I did a quick scan of your posts and it seems you're awfully keen on Inco.. and not really posting about a lot else... so the old antenna are twitching a little... :?

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    I had a similar inkling to you, contink.

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    Hi, just noticed the discussion about INCO and the doubts expressed about just how genuine the positive comments are. I thought it was a lot when I started looking for a system to lighten the load, but you get what you pay for. I must point out that systems as flexible as this one can cost a lot, we had a quote for 8k. I also had cheaper quotes but when I looked at what I was getting, it wasn't comparable. I think people often underestimate how much time and effort it is to maintain an up to date web site. If you want static sites then fine, you don't need this sort of content management system, but if you pln to keep it up to date it is a different story. My school has a website created by and hosted by INCO. The level of service has been excellent, the reduced workload for me and my technicians well worth the fee. The flexibility when creating the site and the features was well worth te cost. I have no axe to grind here, I am a genuine customer who is happy with the quality of the product and support and believe the money was well spent.

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    Can you give us a link to the INCO site for your school?

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    lazypole: You must be mad to spend £8k on a school website with a company like that. That is, if you are a school and not a representative of INCO pretending to be.

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    Quote Originally Posted by lazypole
    I have no axe to grind here, I am a genuine customer who is happy with the quality of the product and support and believe the money was well spent.
    I don't want to sound sceptical here but the simple fact is that there are a number of companies who've shown themselves more than willing to create shill accounts to big-up their products as "satisfied customers".

    With the greatest of respect to yourself I'd have more faith in an established edugeek member feeding back on something rather than a first time poster or someone who is discussing the same product and nothing else. I'm sure you understand.

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    when they contacted me they gave me links to sites created by inco

    http://www.winterhill.rotherham.sch.uk

    http://www.camphillboys.bham.sch.uk

    http://www.brock.ac.uk

    I had a quick look

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    Is contink always this arrogant about people who dare to join this forum, . I am not impressed by this response to my genuine comments.

    I am also annoyed by the comments posted by Webman.
    read my post it says I was aksed for 8k by another supplier.

    Is this really a forum just for moaning about anything and everything.

    AND NO I do not work for INCO.

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    @contink It's insulting that they think they can get away with it!

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    Re: Anyone had dealings with http://www.inco-soft.net

    I hope you don't mind us asking which school you work at lazypole.

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