Just to clarify, this is more my domain...by law you should declare all income, whether you're employed, self employed or both. You are required to charge VAT when your turnover exceeds £68,000.
If you earned less than £6300 (your basic wage) you're still required to declare it, you'll just pay no tax.
My company don't deal with the creation of websites, however if I were to there are several pricing models you could offer potential customers. Basic static websites or database driven websites typically using MySQL and PHP. As for pricing all I can advise is study the market and look at your competitors.
For example you could offer a set price for creating the website then an on-going price for maintaining the website. Some customers also request you deal with domain registration and the hosting itself, so there's plenty of areas to offer services.
Little-Miss (26th February 2010)
I've viewed RingOfFlame's posts enough to understand she will respond to theeldergeek's post above. She's not the kind of girl who likes to back down, which in itself is respectable. I'm all for people who stand up for themselves - I'm the same, but it's not appropriate on a public Forum in this sort of thread.
Before Mods step in and start slapping wrists, can I just suggest that any further derailing of this thread takes place in PM? The discussion r.e ICT_GUY's sideline website has gone way out of proportion, and is entirely irrelevent to the OP, this thread and infact this Forum. I'm not a "forum cop" or a Mod, but I personally hate to see threads continually torn apart on EduGeek by such a distinct clash of opinion, especially when there's a race-row about to spark. It really is not hard to just take it to PM. Really. The world doesn't need to see your clash, it's between you two and you two only.
EDIT: It appears I was too slow in this post. *sigh*
I'm actually rather interested in this thread, because I was offered a web design sideline job for our SSCO department and turned it down, and after reading here what I could have earned, and what they offered, I think I did the right thing. Also, I'm not sure if I'm skilled enough to meet demands. I prefer to hand-code, and I lack sufficient knowledge of Flash, or advanced image creation/editing, etc to make anything worthy of an "Oooh".
RingOfFlame (26th February 2010)
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ICT_GUY (27th February 2010)
And then your talking about the services of a tax accountant presumably ? Let's hear how the web entreprenuers on here do it....i'm intrigued.
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I find it interesting how most of the web-designers, websites on here... are actually templates of someone else's.
Maybe we get lazy when it's our own business on the line?
*note this isn't ment to cause offence, I do it myself...
I don't think it's being lazy or ripping off the customer.
Most users don't want a web site which is built, finished and then that's it - they want to be able to add to it as time goes on (news items, new photos, whatever). Given that, what most users want (even though they may not know it!) is a CMS.
There are several good CMS packages out there - does it really make sense to write your own? Who benefits if you do? Not the customer; it'll probably take you longer (ie cost the customer more) than using an off the shelf package. Maybe you benefit as developer - you've learned some new skills but is it worth it? I think someone's already posted something along the lines of "do you expect a plumber to make their own copper pipe?" and it's a reasonable analogy; using a CMS off the shelf is just about taking one of many tools and using it to do the job the customer wants.
oints to yourself about saving the customer money by using open source CMS.
It's when the CMS takes over both content and design. IT used to be you seperate designing and theming from content, now with open source CMS the CMS is used for the design element of the site via themes in addition to content updating.
I don't think i've heard anyone say that not building your own CMS from scratch is somehow lazy.
Some might argue that using design themes is perhaps a bit lazy, i'd argue more that it's unoriginal....but then there is very little out there that is original. And if the customers happy then alls well.....
I know of a few schools locally that pay around £1,000 a year for design & unlimited updates...
But I think thats a little expensive when the LA host the site and theres only 1 update a month!
If I was doing one privately, I'd be looking at around £500 a year. After all, once the design is done, it's easy money to do a 15 min update every now and then...
Hmm.. sorry to bring this up, but those that do use web templates for customers, do you tell them?
Is it in the design contract?
Also how do you make a intial agreement with the customer?
Taking the school is question I explained about CMS, templates and the pros and cons of different approaches. When we write an agreement I will put in *exactly* what is going to be delivered and how its being delivered.
Generally I think honesty counts for a lot and getting everything down on paper means that you won't worry about misunderstandings because everyone knows what is going to be delivered (though working in management consultancy for a good few years taught me that you have to be very careful about the wording of such documents as everyone has their own interpretation of what was agreed).
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