What is your webserver running?

[wagnerk]

IIS, will also be using Apache from September onwards

-ken

[john]

Can't beat a nice bit of IIS, my mate said he'd kill it off within 10 minutes of trying to hack and bring it down, he gave over after 2hrs Goes to show how hardened it is if setup right

[Grommit]

Originally Posted by webman

Control, freedom, not let down by incompetent third parties



Surely you aren't condoning BSF managed services?!?!

I'm talking about Hosting a web site.. not running it.. we have the freedom to do what we want and store gigs of stuff free..

Don't see why hosting it elsewhere is selling out ?

[contink]

Originally Posted by webman

Control, freedom, not let down by incompetent third parties

Not getting any holiday, time off, stress relief when the server dies at 3am triggering a pager alert so you have to go into an office you can't access to kick the box.

Erm.. no thanks... I have a service provider who knows what they're doing and allows me to get on with the other jobs for which I'm already overstretched.

Surely you aren't condoning BSF managed services?!?!

Managed service does not equate to BSF in all things you know.. remove thy hair trigger response sir..

[webman]

We don't see the point in paying more money to someone to provide a service that we can do ourselves for little extra effort and no cost. Somehow I don't think a web server is high enough up in the priority list to respond to at 3am

[Grommit]

Originally Posted by webman

We don't see the point in paying more money to someone to provide a service that we can do ourselves for little extra effort and no cost. Somehow I don't think a web server is high enough up in the priority list to respond to at 3am

It's free... it comes with your internet connection..

[kesomir]

Originally Posted by Grommit

It's free... it comes with your internet connection..

I suggest your webserver requirements and his may be vastly different. EG: runing Zimbra, PHP, SQL, storage size and command line access and scripting for backups.

[HodgeHi]

Am i the only one looking to host on an Xserve? Apache on OS X Server will be what's running ours i hope when i get round to sorting out the security and permission requirements and reading up on the MySQL security as well. A lot of work to get done for me.

[SteveMC]

We've switched from Apache on Server 2003 to Apache on a Ubuntu VM. Mainly due to the ease of applying security fixes - a quick 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' and you're sorted!

[webman]

Originally Posted by Grommit

It's free... it comes with your internet connection..

That is true. And originally we did use it. But it was slow (PHP, IIS and MySQL on Windows), unreliable, and we had no control (Eg. we weren't allowed to host executable files). Any file permissions that needed to be changed had to be submitted through the DurhamNET helpdesk.

In a nutshell, the hosting on offer simply wasn't up to scratch for our needs.

Hosting it ourselves - the overhead is very minimal and the flexibility is great. Another bonus is that all our web based stuff (website + others) a) is very quick for internal users, b) doesn't eat unnecessary internet bandwidth, c) can be made available to the outside world and d) we can use web based apps that use AD/LDAP authentication.

We can now use as much storage, as much MySQL databases, as many sites, and run whatever applications as we like; it's win-win.

[contink]

Originally Posted by webman

We don't see the point in paying more money to someone to provide a service that we can do ourselves for little extra effort and no cost. Somehow I don't think a web server is high enough up in the priority list to respond to at 3am

From my experience the problems crop up when there are problems with everything else and usually something totally different.

I guess if you know what you're doing with linux, don't have to worry so much about anyone other than your school, etc... then it's easy enough to do.. I'd definitely go with a managed service though if you don't have the time to learn the ropes and/or have a mission critical site that can't afford to go down when you're on holiday (yeah, I know, chance would be a fine thing :P)

[webman]

Originally Posted by contink

From my experience the problems crop up when there are problems with everything else and usually something totally different.

The benefits far outweight the potential problems, so for the time being we will continue to host it ourselves

[kesomir]

Of course managed services don't guarantee solid uptime and trouble free sailing either, and in some cases would be faster to fix ones-self.

*points to a certain dedicated host*

[Marci]

Self-hosted FreeBSD 7 box running Apache, PHP, MySQL, FFMpeg, Lame here...
Educational cPanel/WHM license = £15... bargain!

[Midget]

I have a DAMP. DragonFly BSD Apache MySQL PHP