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    Re: RM Kaleidos vs Moodle

    Quote Originally Posted by ANiceEnglishman
    Interesting to read that BECTA say the VLE and Management systemas should be linked. We are implementing CMIS / Facility / ePortal at the moment [which is a tale in itself]. Wonder if Serco are addressing that? Must ask our Implementation Manager next time he's in.
    What the framework actually states is that there should be a two way link between the VLE and MIS. As far as I am aware, the only combination of products to fulfill this criteria are the opensource MIS and Moodle (when used together).

    I read somewhere that due to the limitations and uncooporative parties involved, Becta was planning on relaxing the framework.

    Back onto topic... IMHO Moodle is a better bet since you will not get tied into a proprietry system during this early stage of the framework. Last time I used Kaleidos, there was a wealth of pre-made materials but I'm sure that materials can be bought for Moodle.

    Remember, Kaleidos will cost £X plus £Y for each pre-made course. If you find a Moodle content provider, you will have no £X to pay... just £Y!!!

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    Re: RM Kaleidos vs Moodle

    Yup there is one moodle partner listed for the uk that creates contents and lots of others sites I've seen where yo ucan buy courses and also courses available for free too.

    That bit about linking to an mis gave me the same thoughts, the only ones that play niceley together are those from the mis company themselves due to the closed source of getting the info from them.

    Sure you can do exports etc... but that is very much a manual process.

    I suppose it's outcomes, targets and assesments that you want too link.

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    Re: RM Kaleidos vs Moodle

    @plexer: If you get chance, would you like to add those links to the wiki page at http://www.russdev.com/edugeek/doku....ed_vle_content that I have just created.

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    Re: RM Kaleidos vs Moodle

    Have done Ric just some sites I'd previously seen plus what a google threw up.

    Just seend http://www.packtpub.com/moodle/book <--- that as well a book on creating courses.

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    Re: RM Kaleidos vs Moodle

    Quote Originally Posted by plexer
    Have done Ric just some sites I'd previously seen plus what a google threw up.

    Just seend http://www.packtpub.com/moodle/book <--- that as well a book on creating courses.

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    Not sure about this book - the author seems to have had a very minor presence on Moodle.org. A book that is available now is by Jason Cole (from the Open University). I found the book slightly dull but some of our less knowledgeable teaching staff have found it useful. You can find it here

    If you want several of my free Computing/ICT courses go to Darren Smiths site which can be found here.

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    Re: RM Kaleidos vs Moodle

    Interesting debate... my 2 cents worth: Kaleidos is great if you're an RM house, have money to throw away and are more concerned about box ticking than education. To me, admittedly a non-educator (but very close to some of that ilk), it seems that Kaleidos supports the teacher in teaching the same way as ever - chalk and talk if you like. A lot of schools understand that and go for that approach. But, IMHO, modern day children are bored with that, and are much more gregarious and communicative than they were, especially when using IT (and mobile phones, of course). Moodle taps into that way of living and adds the learning part to it. Moodle is aimed at the student, working their way towards learning, very often is a very group supporting way. Students love to use Moodle and get into it very quickly. I can't see that happening with Kaleidos - it represents more of that same boring school stuff, and I believe the children/students will just push back on it. Great for the teachers, no fun for them. And shouldn't learning be fun? The fact that Moodle is free is almost incidental, but helps it get used.

    Also the Moodle support community is brilliant, I just can't see RM matching that.

    HTH

    Tuxguy.

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