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    VLE Implementation

    As we have decided not to purchase a VLE at this time and design our own solution, we would like to know how
    things are working in other schools. I would be grateful if some of you folks could share your responses to the following
    questions that we have:

    1. In schools that have opted to buy into or use a VLE, can you explain how the rollout was handled and managed.
    Did your school buy it because it felt it had to, then try and decide what to do with it? Or did your management
    put together a coherent development and training plan as well as allocating resources and time to implement it?

    2. Who has taken ownership of the VLE, is it the technical department, the headteacher, SLT, nobody?

    3. One of the issues we are aware of is the large time commitment required to transfer existing resources onto it.
    Does your school allow teachers extra time to generate resources?

    4. Do you feel your VLE is used effectively? Is it value for money, and do you see any improvements in T&L?
    How are you measuring its success?

    5. How do you support home users? ie, for login problems, their computer is too slow etc. Do you provide
    a level of support to them?

    6. How have you dealt with the issue of some pupils not having internet or even a computer to access the VLE?

    7. Is the VLE embedded within every subject? We notice some subjects dont translate particularly well, regarding
    collection and marking of a piece of art work, for example.

    8. One of the concerns staff have about being able to access work outside of school, is the question of work-life balance. They have already expressed concerns about pupils expecting responses/work related discussions with staff outside of school hours. How have you handled this?

    Thanks for your time.
    Last edited by klawd; 14th November 2008 at 11:36 AM. Reason: added question, fixed ugly grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by klawd View Post
    1. In schools that have opted to buy into or use a VLE, can you explain how the rollout was handled and managed.
    About 6months testing with small groups, then larger groups. lots of training.

    Quote Originally Posted by klawd View Post
    Did your school buy it because it felt it had to, then try and decide what to do with it? Or did your management
    put together a coherent development and training plan as well as allocating resources and time to implement it?
    We were half way through an inhouse moodle implementation, when the LEA imposed University, but Uniservity is absolute sh*t so none of the teachers would use it. Moodle won hands down in terms of functionality,support,value.

    Quote Originally Posted by klawd View Post
    2. Who has taken ownership of the VLE, is it the technical department, the headteacher, SLT, nobody?
    My line manager (asst head) deals with the teachers/course side and i do the technical work (which isn't very much because it mostly runs itself) I upgrade regularly and occasionally put a new module/block in. Our SIMS manager keeps writing integration modules, to import data from SIMS which is nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by klawd View Post
    3. One of the issues we are aware of if the the time commitment required to transfer existing resources onto it.
    Do you allow teachers extra time to generate resources?
    When teachers see the extra features they will want to move onto the VLE.
    If they cannot see tangible benefits then it is dead in the water. Ideally they won't need to generate extra resources, but bring the resources they have.
    If you're expecting teachers to do extra work then forget it.


    edit: forgot to mention, we will package things up for people using a SCORM editor if they ask us.

    Quote Originally Posted by klawd View Post
    4. Do you feel your VLE is used effectively? Is it value for money, and do you see any improvements in T&L?
    Mostly yes, theres still a hardcore minority of staff who won't use it though - the same people with the 'word mindset' who don't really understand it all. Personally I feel there are a massive T+L benefits, kids can get really engaged.

    Quote Originally Posted by klawd View Post
    5. How do you support home users? ie, for login problems, their computer is too slow etc. Do you provide
    a level of support to them?
    unofficially we do. depends on the problem. Most of the problems come down to teachers using inappropriate, inaccessible, proprietary file formats for VLE and expecting everyone to be able to use them.

    Quote Originally Posted by klawd View Post
    6. How have you dealt with the issue of some pupils not having internet or even a computer to access the VLE?
    extended schools (afterschool access to VLE)

    Quote Originally Posted by klawd View Post
    7. Is the VLE embedded within every subject? We notice some subjects dont translate particularly well, regarding
    collection and marking of a piece of art work, for example.

    Thanks your time.
    no, not every subject. Some teachers just aren't very creative, you'd expect art teachers to have more imagination though.
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    very similar!

    Heavens - I had to check that wasn't me replying above as I could have written almost the same answers. But this is me:
    1,In schools that have opted to buy into or use a VLE, can you explain how the rollout was handled and managed.
    Moodle - chosen and tested by couple of depts in Spring/Summer term and rolled out to whole school Autumn term

    Did your school buy it because it felt it had to, then try and decide what to do with it? Or did your management
    put together a coherent development and training plan as well as allocating resources and time to implement it?

    VLE issues part of bid for Specialist School status- looked at others such as frog but opted for Moodle cos a) it was the best and b) broadband suppliers were offering it.
    2. Who has taken ownership of the VLE, is it the technical department, the headteacher, SLT, nobody?
    I am admin, answering to my linemanager assistant head/head of ICT taking official responsiblity.
    3. One of the issues we are aware of if the the time commitment required to transfer existing resources onto it.
    Do you allow teachers extra time to generate resources?

    No - they have to do it in their own time but last couple of years I have been given timetabled hours to do this, plus we now have technician whose job it is to help in this way.
    . Do you feel your VLE is used effectively? Is it value for money, and do you see any improvements in T&L?

    Yes - transformed T and L (or L and T as it is now ) in our school and brought community into school also. GCSE grades improved too in 3 years we've had it and had online revision resources. Can't say for 100% it is VLE but we like to think it is. Become part of daily life. A handful of cynics mainly retired or retiring now and others just accept or embrace (ugh, sorry) it, particularly cos pupils expect it of their teachers.
    5. How do you support home users? ie, for login problems, their computer is too slow etc. Do you provide
    a level of support to them?

    Don't experience many problems - try to deal with them on personal ad hoc basis
    . How have you dealt with the issue of some pupils not having internet or even a computer to access the VLE?
    Not a major issue at our place but answer is same as Cybernerd's
    7. Is the VLE embedded within every subject? We notice some subjects dont translate particularly well, regarding
    collection and marking of a piece of art work, for example.
    There is something in every subject; where there isn't much we try to help out - planning on training pupils to help some teachers who are less comfortable with it. But some subjects have more stuff on and some have less. I try to have a focus each half term with a vle development group I have to encourage staff to try out stuff -like different types of assignment and online marking
    One of the concerns staff have about being able to access work outside of school, is the question of work-life balance. They have already expressed concerns about pupils expecting responses/work related discussions with staff outside of school hours. How have you handled this?

    Sometimes our staff respond to IMs from pupils after school; sometimes not -there's no obligation to. As for work-life balance, I have no problems on that score at all. I just work and don't have a life....

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    1. In schools that have opted to buy into or use a VLE, can you explain how the rollout was handled and managed.
    I became interested in the possibilities of a VLE about 3 years ago from reading posts on Edugeek. I downloaded and installed 1.5 of moodle in my own webspace and messed about. Just over two years ago we (NM and myself) started inviting various companies to come and demo their VLE in front of an audience of SMT and NMís from various schools around the borough. The best one we saw was Scholaris, built on MOSS 2007. At the time the school couldnít afford it so after some wrangling went with Moodle as the best option.
    Did your school buy it because it felt it had to, then try and decide what to do with it?
    Iíve always told the head that a VLE properly deployed will enhance education and I feel heís trusted my judgement. We were offered the LEA choice earlier this year, Uniservity with the cost of this coming out of our Harnessing Technology budget but the head said no.
    Or did your management put together a coherent development and training plan as well as allocating resources and time to implement it?
    A development plan of sorts has been put together by the ICT faculty and myself. During my staff appraisal earlier this year I had it noted that my role was to raise awareness of the VLE and receive CPD. So far I havenít asked for the latter.


    2. Who has taken ownership of the VLE, is it the technical department, the headteacher, SLT, nobody?
    I have been timetabled two days a week to run the VLE, though in these early stages Iím being grabbed every day. This is no bad thing as it shows that staff are interested.

    3. One of the issues we are aware of is the large time commitment required to transfer existing resources onto it.
    Does your school allow teachers extra time to generate resources?
    At the moment we have a large area on one of the servers where staff put all their work. It didnít start out like that but has just developed that way. They have the resources there already, and getting them on the VLE helps to get them organized. At the moment itís not pretty. The site went live to all staff in September this year, though the ICTAC (ICT Across the Curriculum) reps have been having group and one to one sessions with one of the ICT teachers and me since May/June. I also worked hard with the Head of Art to develop a GCSE Photography course which was starting this school year. The idea of this is to be an exemplar course for other faculties, to see just what can be done with Moodle. Thereís also a lot of Moodle (training) material out there on YouTube and elsewhere so I set up a staff only section of the site with all these video walkthroughs of how to do things in Moodle. Most of these last no more than a couple of minutes.

    4. Do you feel your VLE is used effectively? Is it value for money, and do you see any improvements in T&L?
    How are you measuring its success?
    Itís certainly being well used, but weíre only a couple of months into opening it up to staff and pupils. Pupils are discussing subjects via the messaging system, peer review, writing blogs, journals, though I have to admit itís a bit like the wild west at the moment, but itís the part I enjoy.

    5. How do you support home users? ie, for login problems, their computer is too slow etc. Do you provide a level of support to them?
    Itís early days yet, and so far thereíve been no problems from home users. We ran survey just after Christmas to see who did and didnít have home access, and weíve recently introduced a simple poll on the front page, ďDo you have access to a computer at home?Ē with a simple Yes/No choice. This will cross reference the survey.

    6. How have you dealt with the issue of some pupils not having internet or even a computer to access the VLE?
    See above

    7. Is the VLE embedded within every subject? We notice some subjects dont translate particularly well, regarding collection and marking of a piece of art work, for example.
    Naturally, a painting or a sculpture canít be uploaded, but with the photography course there are galleries for display and peer review. Itís horses for courses.

    8. One of the concerns staff have about being able to access work outside of school, is the question of work-life balance. They have already expressed concerns about pupils expecting responses/work related discussions with staff outside of school hours. How have you handled this?
    Staff mostly ignore them, though they do pay particular attention to Years 10 and 11

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    I'm not a saddo. As part of my degree course I'm writing a module on raising awareness of a VLE in school, and this includes the change management aspect.

    http://www.beyondresistance.com/resistance_to_change.htm
    http://www.jiscinfonet.ac.uk/infokits/change-management/changing-the-culture
    http://www.jiscinfonet.ac.uk/infokits/change-management/roles/agent
    http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/the-information
    http://www.jisc.ac.uk/whatwedo/programmes/buildmlehefe/lifelonglearning/mlebriefingpack/17
    http://ccs.mit.edu/papers/CCSWP191/ccswp191.html
    http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows/23487-thats-gratitude-you-comments-after-exchange-2007-upgrade.html
    Apologies to ssiruuk2 for this last link.

    One more link to add which I forgot about earlier - Secondary ICT Management - Choosing a VLE | Teachers TV
    Yup, I'm here again - http://www.jisc.ac.uk/uploaded_documents/bp17.pdf
    There's also an attached pdf, VLE mistakes - how to get it all wrong. It's a little old but still relevant.
    Must get back to doing some work now.
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    Last edited by beeswax; 15th November 2008 at 01:26 PM. Reason: I'm a saddo

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