Moodle (AMP) is much better supported on linux.
Bit of an open question but discussions have started again about sorting out our rather empty Moodle site and part of it involves making a decision on hosting \ development of it. So basically I was wondering for those of you with Moodle...
- if you host internally what platform do you use, Linux or Windows?
- if external who is yuor host and how do you rate them?
- if Linux who manages the system, backups, upgrades etc?
- do you have a developer of some sort to design the themes etc?
- do you have an eLearning co-ordinator, VLE manager etc to oversee the project in general, arrange training etc etc?
Lots of qu's I know but any info much appreciated
Moodle (AMP) is much better supported on linux.
gshaw (31st October 2008)
Thanks for that CyberNerd, when you say developed in house is that you again or another guy?
Also were you Linux-savvy before you had Moodle?
I didn't do any of the moodle themes, but I do do some course maintenance and I do all the server side. I've been using linux for a while now. I started using it professionally for webservers though. IIRC ubuntu has a moodle package in it's repository so it would be very simple to set up.
in house, server 2003, steal themes from others then modify them.
there are many advantages of hosting onsite. these include
more control, better backups, easier to move large files, easier to make additions, easier access to fileserver, ldap and smtp.
we have a committee made up to a curriculum leader, it champions, technical support and the kids themselves.
Host internally on Ubuntu 8.04 running as a VMWare ESXi virtual machine.
We often have 200+ simultaneous users and it handles it fine. Get the odd complaint about it being slow externally at busy times, but thats down to our LEA throttling the bandwidth at their end.
We have a tech who works full time on it, plus any other web stuff or fiddling with photo's/videos etc.
I have management responsibility for it so do a lot of liasing wth departments, training staff and generally championing its use.
Last edited by ezzauk; 31st October 2008 at 10:20 PM.
FreeBSD7, Apache 2.2, PHP5.2.5, WHM/cPanel11 (only £15 for lifetime license for educational establishments), LDAP Authentication against MS Active Directory with singlesignon across whole website / online facilities on an old Dual Xeon server with 4Gb Ram and Raid-5 array, with backups to second array and tape- if you host internally what platform do you use, Linux or Windows?
If I was to host externally it'd be somewhere stateside - prices much more reasonable - can get a dedicated server at a US Datacentre (with 80Gb to yerself for storage and 1.5Tb monthly bandwidth on 100Mb uplink) for what a UK restrictive VHost package costs... but as it goes we host it all ourselves on a plusnet 4Mb/512Kb ADSL line with static IP that doubles up as an unfiltered net connection for ICT Support Staff instead of using LEA filtered line.- if external who is yuor host and how do you rate them?
Me... freebsdupdate.sh looks after OS upgrades and patches via cron, portupgrade and cPanel's UPCP keeps all the ports and backend software uptodate and patched via cron.- if Linux who manages the system, backups, upgrades etc?
Me again - working on it for Moodle... only just finished the rest of the web facilities - ePortal and Moodle still to do.- do you have a developer of some sort to design the themes etc?
Yep - I just make sure it runs how it should...- do you have an eLearning co-ordinator, VLE manager etc to oversee the project in general, arrange training etc etc?
We trialled our moodle for a year in house running on CentOS (moodle 1.8.something)
We now use ULCC (University of London Computing Centre) - they're very good (moodle 1.9.something)
I'm the VLE person
Hi nadeem I'm interested to hear about why you decided to go ULCC and how you convinced the powers that be to shell out for it
Have you got the MIS integration package from ULCC, if so how does it work?
One other qu for people on here...
- for MIS integration do you go MIS System > AD > Moodle or has anyone skipped the AD accounts and just go database to Moodle. At the moment because we're ACL we've got loads of short courses so don't have student logins at the moment, although I'm wondering if it could all link nicely together that could change...
We're hosting internally awell, here's what we're doing at Wildern for comparison:
We're internal but we also have some servers up in London on which we host VLEs for ~40 other primary and secondary schools.- if external who is your host and how do you rate them?
I'm mainly in charge of the system, backups (like others) involve mysqldumps, rsyncing the configs, moodledata and files and a live replica of the database. Other people in the development department can also do course setup, upgrades, add themes though.- if Linux who manages the system, backups, upgrades etc?
There are graphic designers attached to our department who have always taken care of the themes.- do you have a developer of some sort to design the themes etc?
Yes. I'll poke Tim with this thread as he might be able to give a more useful answer on what we do about this point.- do you have an eLearning co-ordinator, VLE manager etc to oversee the project in general, arrange training etc etc?
Has anyone total'd up the cost of hosting moodle internally? E.g the actual cost of running and maintaining the server?
Geoff does all of the backups, upgrades. If I see an interesting block or module then that is tested on a local test installation.
One of our other technicians (Young Dave) plays around with the themes.
I'm afraid that I'm the eLearning person and arrange training to individuals/departments.
The advantage of local hosting is speed and flexibility but you do throw all of your eggs into one basket. CLEO does a very good job at supporting schools in Cumbria and Lancashire but I'm afraid that I'm very impatient. If I see a new idea I want it immediately.
What should appear on course pages is decided by SLT & our IT group, responsibility for making sure this is there is with the heads of department. We then have a few different teaching staff with responsibilities that are in someway linked to use of the VLE. Examples I can think of now- new technologies, student voice, AfL. All these make use of the site in different ways & these people often provide a lead to others.
Guess the most important part here is that responsibility for the day-to-day use is with the teaching staff, direction/future vision/etc is covered by the leadership team & our long-term planning.
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