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    Moodle to Wordpress

    We are planning to move away from our current Moodle as our college VLE to Wordpress ready for the new term in September. The move should provide an new, up to date/modern experience and provide students with a blog.

    I'm currently evaluating three different wordpress plugins/themes to help create courses and content manage.

    Namaste! LMS: Leaning Management System For Wordpress
    WordPress - Academy - Learning Management Theme | ThemeForest
    http://www.woothemes.com/products/sensei/

    Has anyone done this or used these products and can offer advice?

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    Wordpress as a VLE? That's an interesting move...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gshaw View Post
    Wordpress as a VLE? That's an interesting move...
    Wordpress isn't meant to be one for a reason, making a weird move...

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    It would be good to understand why your moving away from moodle?

    The reasons to move will help you evaluate the wordpress plugin.

    Are you a primary or secondary school?

    Wordpress plus a course management plugin doesn't make a VLE.

    The biggest issue you will face is if you have any scorm resource as I don't believe any wordpress currently supports them.

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    Agree with these points. What were um you using Moodle for before, and what are you trying to achieve with it now? It is certainly an odd move unless you are purely using it as a hosting and basic website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gshaw View Post
    Wordpress as a VLE? That's an interesting move...
    it is a very weird move I know

    Moodle isnt used to its full potential here and lecturers are still printing out reams of paper, we'd like to get away from that and have a fresh start. Already we use wordpress.com as a blogging platform for students to use as an online portfolio. Moving away from moodle to wordpress would consolidate the systems we use.

    Moodle is currently more used as a document store from than a traditional VLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark100 View Post
    it is a very weird move I know

    Moodle isnt used to its full potential here and lecturers are still printing out reams of paper, we'd like to get away from that and have a fresh start. Already we use wordpress.com as a blogging platform for students to use as an online portfolio. Moving away from moodle to wordpress would consolidate the systems we use.

    Moodle is currently more used as a document store from than a traditional VLE
    Why don't you make them all look similar? Rather than have a bunch of different platforms which will only confuse matters more? Wordpress is AWFUL for making a VLE, it would require a LOT of custom coding and the plugins really won't be that useful, the support won't be there forever and if it becomes outdated you'l have a security problem.

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    Moodle to Wordpress

    Quote Originally Posted by mark100 View Post
    it is a very weird move I know

    Moodle isnt used to its full potential here and lecturers are still printing out reams of paper, we'd like to get away from that and have a fresh start. Already we use wordpress.com as a blogging platform for students to use as an online portfolio. Moving away from moodle to wordpress would consolidate the systems we use.

    Moodle is currently more used as a document store from than a traditional VLE
    If you're going to do something so radical, why not consider using Sharepoint as a VLE instead (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ukhe/archive...s-a-vle.aspx)?

    At least you'll have something that is scalable, flexible, and widely supported, and that will integrate with Office natively. Using a blogging platform as a VLE - whew. Hey if it's blue sky thinking for VLEs, maybe even Confluence or DocuWiki should get a look. Or, if you wants something familiar and intuitive maybe Edmodo.

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    Don't tar wordpress with "blogging platform" any more please, that's no different to calling your mobile phone a device solely for making telephony calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    Don't tar wordpress with "blogging platform" any more please, that's no different to calling your mobile phone a device solely for making telephony calls.
    What, you want me to call it a CMS or something? It's a blogging platform that tries it's best to be a CMS - but it ain't. That's not what it was designed to be. It was designed for blogging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    ...that's no different to calling your mobile phone a device solely for making telephony calls.
    You mean kind of like a blackberry trying to be a smartphone?

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    It's far more of a general purpose tool (cms would suit maybe?) than it is just a blogging device now. It may have started that way, but clearly it isn't just that any more. Not that I'm condoning it's use as a "VLE" although the definition of VLE is fading somewhat as I think the majority of us suspected. It may well be more efficient to cut down something described as a VLE to the bits that are used often. As above, Sharepoint is probably a better bet, or look at the likes of Edmodo. It's not a VLE although people seem to market it as such, but it'll do more besides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    It's far more of a general purpose tool (cms would suit maybe?) than it is just a blogging device now. It may have started that way, but clearly it isn't just that any more. Not that I'm condoning it's use as a "VLE" although the definition of VLE is fading somewhat as I think the majority of us suspected. It may well be more efficient to cut down something described as a VLE to the bits that are used often. As above, Sharepoint is probably a better bet, or look at the likes of Edmodo. It's not a VLE although people seem to market it as such, but it'll do more besides.
    OK, fair enough I can go with that.

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    Hi Mark

    Have you thought about what teachers will actually use and disable access to the remainder of the resource and activity types?

    For example, under Activities disable Assignment, Chat, Choice, Database, External tools, Glossary, Lesson, Quiz, Survey, Wiki, Workshop and just leave them with Forums and SCORM. Under resources disable Book, IMS Content Package and leave everything else.

    The idea is to tailor Moodle to what you think your teachers can cope with and would find easiest to transition their existing skills to. A few simple guides on how to do things would be useful for them.

    From that basis you can then develop the site to suit your teachers.

    If you move to WordPress it sounds like your teachers don't know how to use that either and you are also removing the place where they keep their files. Moving to something completely different like SharePoint is all well and good if you have the drive and training budget behind you otherwise you're going to be back where you started.

    I'd stick with Moodle and figure out what you can do with it to suit your teachers and take it from there. Evolution not revolution!

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    You mention wanting a fresh look. Have you seen the new wave of Moodlle responsive themes that are rapidly being developed? Yes it's still Moodle but they provide a fresh, modern experience for users now.

    Wordpress would not provide you with the pedagogical toolset that Moodle has out of the box - Book, Workshop, Lesson, Wiki, Glossary, Assignments, Quiz, Conditional Activities, Badges... I could go on.

    If your Moodle was being used primarily as a document resource I think it's more to do with the community's approach to it than the platform itself.

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