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Thin Client and Virtual Machines Thread, Rethinking my virtualisation ideas in Technical; Originally Posted by MrWu Yes they have 32 core beasts haven't they? Lol why is everyone obsessing over the 32 ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWu View Post
    Yes they have 32 core beasts haven't they?
    Lol why is everyone obsessing over the 32 core options – yes we plan on deploying one (maybe two) for our next VDI install but the 8 and 12 core options are much cheaper and do just as well for hosting server VMs.
    Either way they are great bits of kit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWu View Post
    Thank you.

    The most critical roles on these would be SIMS and the finance app, Exchange 2010 is on a new physical box at the moment so might not need to virtualise that yet..i use DPM to backup the SQL DB and the VHDs later on.

    I'm just at a indecisive moment with the SAN, would that be a single point of failure? Do i have money for 2( say netgear readynas instead of the MSA2000? My head hurts lol.
    Personaly I am trying to stay away from SANs as much as possible - yes they offer great flexiablity in the sense you can live migrate VMs however with properly setup servers using the fail over software built into the Windows Roles (AD Replication, DNS, DFS-R, SQL server replication, Exchange replication ect) its easy enough to do away with the SANs and spend more on the servers (making sure they don't fail in the first place) and putting kit on peoples desks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfed View Post
    Lol why is everyone obsessing over the 32 core options – yes we plan on deploying one (maybe two) for our next VDI install but the 8 and 12 core options are much cheaper and do just as well for hosting server VMs.
    Either way they are great bits of kit!
    If i don't buy as many Cores as I can this year i wont be given any budget for anymore cores for 5 years...Plus i would be looking at my taskmanager all day lol

    That seems the way they do budgets at my school i have been told!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfed View Post
    Lol why is everyone obsessing over the 32 core options – yes we plan on deploying one (maybe two) for our next VDI install but the 8 and 12 core options are much cheaper and do just as well for hosting server VMs.
    Either way they are great bits of kit!
    32 core would work out significantly cheaper if you are licensing per socket !

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    32 core would work out significantly cheaper if you are licensing per socket !
    Its 2x16 cores so still 2 sockets

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfed View Post
    Its 2x16 cores so still 2 sockets
    That still beats 6-core xeons using socket licensing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    That still beats 6-core xeons using socket licensing!
    Ooooh yes God I am a AMD geek!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWu View Post
    If i don't buy as many Cores as I can this year i wont be given any budget for anymore cores for 5 years...Plus i would be looking at my taskmanager all day lol

    That seems the way they do budgets at my school i have been told!
    Good point I would be looking at it that in 5 years time a reasonable number of our services would be running as some for of SaaS or IaaS (I hate this cloud term) which would therefore require less processing on our part.

    Either way know what you are coming from!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWu View Post
    Thank you.

    The most critical roles on these would be SIMS and the finance app, Exchange 2010 is on a new physical box at the moment so might not need to virtualise that yet..i use DPM to backup the SQL DB and the VHDs later on.

    I'm just at a indecisive moment with the SAN, would that be a single point of failure? Do i have money for 2( say netgear readynas instead of the MSA2000? My head hurts lol.
    Well if the Exchange server is new, and you can maintain replicas / scheduled exports / DPM backups of SIMS and the finance app then I would say local storage is more suitable. You can always add a SAN at a later date and migrate servers to it as your current equipment ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWu View Post
    Give me some time then to see what Hyper V R3 could do later on...
    There is a great article today on the Windows Server Blog about what can be done with storage and Hyper-V R3.


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    Thanks to all;

    I think, considering all this I feel a bit more comfortable with the following:

    hyper v 3 ready.jpg

    that way, later on I could make use of the SMB 2.2 on the two filservers for failover and replication of VMs, depending on how easy this could be implemented

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    Stick with Dl 380's and add massive RAM..

    we have exchange , AD, AV, SCES,UAG,School management system's etc etc are virtualized...

    in three Box's of Dl 380.

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    Interestingly, I looked at the power subsystem on our C7000 Bladecenter earlier in the week.

    It's drawaing 2.3Kw

    That's 14 Physical Blades

    3 Blades running 26 Virtual Servers on
    1 Blade running 1 Physical Server
    10 Blades runnign 44 Virtual Desktops,

    so that's 467 Computers for 2.3Kw......

    Rob

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    Holy Frakenstein Batman! "this thread lives again!" wa ha ha ha...

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    Lol bump thread from the dead!

    I ended up putting in 2xDL380 G7s and a MSA P2000 via SAS 6Gb in the end..will add another DL380 host this year or use it to try out Hyper V 3!

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