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    Quick straw poll: virtualisation & backup

    Just looking for a quick summary of responses for what your current preferred \ in use techologies are in your virtual environments? I've gone for the two options I'm looking at in each case but feel free to add your own

    Virtualisation platform...
    VMWare or Hyper-V

    Backup solution...
    Backup Exec or Microsoft DPM

    Storage connection
    iSCSI, FC or NFS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gshaw View Post
    Virtualisation platform...
    Xen

    Backup solution...
    Rsync

    Storage connection
    SATA

    --
    David Hicks

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    hyper v, dpm and iscsi. hyper v as it sits on windows , dpm as its cheap and iscsi for much the same reason.

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    VMWare

    Backup Exec

    iSCSI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butuz View Post
    VMWare

    Backup Exec

    iSCSI
    The same
    Last edited by salan; 23rd November 2010 at 02:55 PM. Reason: typing with my nose

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    For VMWare \ Backup Exec people did you go to the VM agents or still using the classic agent backup style? If using the VM agent how did it work out price wise (bearing in mind you don't need the Windows agents once you get the VM agent as far as I understand?)

    Also for Backup Exec people have you tested restore processes and is it working reliably?

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    VMware ESXi

    Custom scripts to take images. Nothing put in for file-level restore

    Local storage on the server

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    • VMware
    • Backup Exec and Veeam (Veeam isn't actually in place yet because the full virtualisation plan hasn't gone ahead yet)
    • NFS

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    Quote Originally Posted by gshaw View Post
    For VMWare \ Backup Exec people did you go to the VM agents or still using the classic agent backup style? If using the VM agent how did it work out price wise (bearing in mind you don't need the Windows agents once you get the VM agent as far as I understand?)

    Also for Backup Exec people have you tested restore processes and is it working reliably?
    Backup exec agents and no it didnt restore well.
    We had to do a full DR due to a gas explosion near by just a few weeks ago.
    Suffice to say that we are in the proccess of re assessing our DR options as we were (in our opinion) down for too long.
    We have VDR as well running and that (as we found out) is only any good if you still have a VM!
    We had the disks 'trashed' so no vm to recover to.
    So we had to rebuild some machines manually and then restore from backup.
    As the saying goes. Are you REALLY sure you backups will work? Have you actually tried them FULLY?
    As we found out no they don't!
    Alan

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    If you want full DR, check out Veeam for a better way of backing up entire virtual machines and VMware SRM (Site Recovery Manager) for a proper DR solution that will allow you to test your DR and Business Continuity procedures without having to take down your network.

    Sorry to hear about the gas explosion, I think anything like that is a sysadmin's worst nightmare.

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    Virtualisation platform...
    VMWare vSphere 4.1

    Backup solution...
    Commvault Simpana 8 using the VMware iDataAgent and VADP

    Storage connection
    iSCSI

    I'm still in the testing phase but overall its looking good.

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    Sounds good, but have you actually done a full DR yet?
    IE fresh hardware and restored from backup to a fully working server?
    I have ben let down so many times with these.

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    Hyper V
    DPM
    Firestreamer to USB Disk

    sick of giving money to backup exec for agents, upgrades that don't always work

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    Not yet, that's why I say I'm still in the testing phase. I've spent the last couple of weeks getting it installed, getting the backup proxy in place and getting the backups just working. The recovery test phase is what's coming next.

    I have however tested DR with physical servers using Simpana so I know the software is good.

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    Please let us know how you get on.
    Alan

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