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    Well we had a DR situation last week (shock wave from a gas explosion next door trashed the disks).
    what we have found is that a lot of these solutions that 'say' they provide DR. Do not.
    So how many of you have ACTUALLY tested with a full DR senario your backup solutions?
    We have used Backup exec and VMDR.
    Both failed and needed systems to be rebuilt. Meaning we were down for days not hours as had been thought.
    We are now re evaluting our backup solutions.
    Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by salan View Post
    Well we had a DR situation last week (shock wave from a gas explosion next door trashed the disks).
    what we have found is that a lot of these solutions that 'say' they provide DR. Do not.
    So how many of you have ACTUALLY tested with a full DR senario your backup solutions?
    We have used Backup exec and VMDR.
    Both failed and needed systems to be rebuilt. Meaning we were down for days not hours as had been thought.
    We are now re evaluting our backup solutions.
    Alan
    We simulated a disaster recovery using backup exec and it was shockingly bad. This is one of the reasons we are looking at other packages.

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    probably the main reason I'm upgrading to 2008 R2.

    we're using DPM and getting a server back up is easier with "bare metal" restore. still not a one step process though. and gonna take a long time for 40+ vm's

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    Veeam gets my vote, and the education pricing isn't half bad.

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    I just have a script that pauses my VM and backs everything up then starts them again. Its a bodge job but it works perfectly every night

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    If your using ESX/i then another recommendation for Veeam.

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    +1 for Veeam - saved my bacon more than once

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    Hi, my company also planning to buy ESXi server and will use install VM, i am planning that use which backup software for backup vmdk files then use backup exec to backup tape. i dont want to use Symantec agent, can you give me good advice for use which freeware to backup vmdk files?

    Thanks,

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    @ Pon you cant easily backup the vmdk whilst the VM is live unless you use a proper vmware backup solution. However you can pause the vm via script and then backup the files eg at night

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    at first, thanks Squeeky, i know that i need to do backup at night, and i saw some posts who uses esXpress that can backup vmdk files.

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    Anyone here any experience of using vranger? Been trialling the software here but struggled after moving datastore offsite and struggled to get full backup to continue as incrementals. every slight change in the backup job seems to want to redo a full backup.

    I've just managed to get the backend iscsi infrastructure in place for the lan free backup. I'm about to start looking at veeam to see how that works out? Anyone out there who has tried both out?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper View Post
    Hi Guys,,

    I was wondering what solutions any of you guys are using to backup VMware server. We currently use backup exec and backup in the region of 2Tb, So what i am really asking is do you know of any better solutions ?

    Cheers

    Use Veeam. Here's a job log from Christmas day. Doesn't go wrong, we do termly restores on selected machines just to check, works every time. This is one job out of approximately 12 split by service. Backups total about 6Tb.

    Session Details
    Status Success Start time 12/25/2010 3:00:17 AM Details

    Total VMs 6 End time 12/25/2010 9:08:59 AM
    Processed VMs 6 Duration 6:08:41
    Successful VMs 6 Total size 4.87 TB
    Failed VMs 0 Processed size 4.87 TB
    VMs in progress 0 Processing rate 231 MB/s

    Processed Objects
    VM name Status Start time End time Total size Processed size Processing rate Duration Details
    BCS-FS01 Success 12/25/2010 3:01:26 AM 12/25/2010 3:38:58 AM 490.00 GB 490.00 GB 223 MB/s 0:37:31
    BCS-FS05 Success 12/25/2010 3:38:58 AM 12/25/2010 4:24:43 AM 1.04 TB 1.04 TB 397 MB/s 0:45:45
    BCS-FS06 Success 12/25/2010 4:24:43 AM 12/25/2010 4:29:32 AM 240.00 GB 240.00 GB 853 MB/s 0:04:48
    BCS-FS03 Success 12/25/2010 4:29:32 AM 12/25/2010 7:04:38 AM 1.04 TB 1.04 TB 117 MB/s 2:35:05
    BCS-FS02 Success 12/25/2010 7:04:38 AM 12/25/2010 9:03:16 AM 1.04 TB 1.04 TB 153 MB/s 1:58:37
    BCS-FS04 Success 12/25/2010 9:03:16 AM 12/25/2010 9:08:47 AM 1.04 TB 1.04 TB 3 GB/s 0:05:31
    Last edited by Dave_O; 9th January 2011 at 09:11 PM.

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    Over what network/backbone are you backing them up as the processing rates look pretty fast?

    Just building my infrastructure now with a seperate iscsi network for lan free backups. Waiting for my iscsi storage to turn up tomorrow.

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    The infrastructure is 4Gig Fibre channel. The Veeam backups we do over lan are less than this ( two thirds of the fibre rate - see below). We run two copies of the backups to two physically separate locations one over fibre one over lan.

    Session Details
    Status Success Start time 1/1/2011 1:00:19 PM Details

    Total VMs 4 End time 1/1/2011 6:26:45 PM
    Processed VMs 4 Duration 5:26:26
    Successful VMs 4 Total size 3.60 TB
    Failed VMs 0 Processed size 3.60 TB
    VMs in progress 0 Processing rate 193 MB/s

    Processed Objects
    VM name Status Start time End time Total size Processed size Processing rate Duration Details
    BCS-FS01 Success 1/1/2011 1:01:53 PM 1/1/2011 1:31:51 PM 490.00 GB 490.00 GB 279 MB/s 0:29:58
    BCS-FS02 Success 1/1/2011 1:31:51 PM 1/1/2011 3:12:21 PM 1.04 TB 1.04 TB 181 MB/s 1:40:30
    BCS-FS03 Success 1/1/2011 3:12:22 PM 1/1/2011 5:36:35 PM 1.04 TB 1.04 TB 126 MB/s 2:24:12
    BCS-FS04 Success 1/1/2011 5:36:35 PM 1/1/2011 6:26:23 PM 1.04 TB 1.04 TB 365 MB/s 0:49:47



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    Is there any way to put Veeam backups onto tape at some point? It's the only way we can truly get the data off site at the moment so still need to have that option... looking at DPM to see if we can trust it enough to take over from Backup Exec...

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