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Thin Client and Virtual Machines Thread, Multipoint server setup in Technical; Originally Posted by milt added 2 PNY geforce 5200 PCI cards for $70 <snip> booted up, installed video drivers (had ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by milt View Post
    added 2 PNY geforce 5200 PCI cards for $70
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    booted up, installed video drivers (had to find the right one -- wrong info abounds)
    Any more details? I've just set up a similar machine with two GeForce FX 5500 PCI graphics cards and have, so far, completely failed to find working drivers for Multipoint Server. Seemingly, they come with 64-bit drivers and are compatible with Windows Vista, but I don't seem to be able to convince Multipoint to recognise them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    Any more details? I've just set up a similar machine with two GeForce FX 5500 PCI graphics cards and have, so far, completely failed to find working drivers for Multipoint Server. Seemingly, they come with 64-bit drivers and are compatible with Windows Vista, but I don't seem to be able to convince Multipoint to recognise them.

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    I used Nvidia driver 169.21. You can download it. If you look at the nvidia site you will see that it supports 5500. I had it on a PNY CD (that I got with the card) in a folder and ran setup, but the downloaded file should work too. I didn't get all 4 monitors working until the driver was installed. Before that, only one card was working and it was showing duplicate screens. Afterwards, I had 4 monitors to which I could assign usb hubs. Happy to answer any other questions.

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    Have you guys contacted VeryPC? They have a 2,4,6 user Retail product that I saw at a school in Solihull. I gather they also have their own range of access devices that have more USB ports etc than NComputing.

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    I am not using ncomputing at all, just $10 USB hubs and dual head video cards. My entire 24 seat system is coming in at $13,200, based on 4 seat pods.

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    Ok now pricing up the hardware I am going to propose to use.

    The most I need from one cluster is the host + 6 clients based on the layout of the room.

    So what spec do I need:

    1 x dual quad core = 8 cores = 1 core at least to each machine?
    14GB Ram = 2GB to each machine?

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Ok now pricing up the hardware I am going to propose to use.

    The most I need from one cluster is the host + 6 clients based on the layout of the room.

    So what spec do I need:

    1 x dual quad core = 8 cores = 1 core at least to each machine?
    14GB Ram = 2GB to each machine?

    Ben
    Hi Ben,

    Sounds a bit beefy, what sort of work are you looking to do on the machines? On a 6:1 ratio I'd have thought a good spec quad core would do the job for most instances. Maybe look at a 6-core AMD or an i7 with Quad + HT?

    Also, dependant on use, maybe somewhere between 6Gb and 9Gb would be more, affordable? I'm certain the machines I'm running at the moment, which are on a 5:1 ratio have a Quad core (no HT) and 6Gb Ram and they fly. About to install Solidworks on them

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    Hi Terry,

    Thanks for that I'm going to spec an affordable but high spec machine, looking at an HP server at the moment that can take lots of ram and it's got a single quad core but has a spare socket so I suppose if it turns out to be an issue I can slap in another processor. It has 12 dimm slots I think so again can always add more ram if required allthough I am a bit concerned about noise.

    Will be interesting to see how you get on with solidworks.

    I was looking at using multiple gfx cards as well instead of the usb boxes.

    I'll drop you a message tomorrow regarding your kit.

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    I was planning on using multiple gfx's cards in the host hoping to maximise video performance and then have a powered usb hub at each monitor to plug in their keyboard, mouse and any usb flash device however I am now wondering what to do about audio as the HP and NComputing solutions have audio on their usb device.

    Ta.

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    I ran a test on Solidworks before buying into the solution, these machines appeared to handle my basic attempts at 3D design fairly well. We've used Lindy USB audio devices in the past (about £20, i think), Not tested but I'm pretty sure they'll plug and play into a usb hub on Multipoint.

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    That is grossly overspecced buddy! The GreenHive Mulipoint 6 User Direct Connection appliance; Intel I5 750 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR3 1333, DVDRW, 4 Port USB Card, 3 x Nvidia 8400GS 512MB Graphics Card, 160GB 7200rpm HDD, 12 USB, 2 front, 10 rear, 10/100/1000 LAN, 300W 80+ Bronze PSU, No Operating System, 3 Yr RTB Warranty, Aluminium Tower chassis, 6 Connected through Graphics output and 4 Port USB Hub or KB/MS , Audio etc Was on a primary school sheffield tender at £659 RRP. Some VAR or another won it, but apparently tonnes quoted out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by multipoint View Post
    That is grossly overspecced buddy! The GreenHive Mulipoint 6 User Direct Connection appliance; Intel I5 750 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR3 1333, DVDRW, 4 Port USB Card, 3 x Nvidia 8400GS 512MB Graphics Card, 160GB 7200rpm HDD, 12 USB, 2 front, 10 rear, 10/100/1000 LAN, 300W 80+ Bronze PSU, No Operating System, 3 Yr RTB Warranty, Aluminium Tower chassis, 6 Connected through Graphics output and 4 Port USB Hub or KB/MS , Audio etc Was on a primary school sheffield tender at £659 RRP. Some VAR or another won it, but apparently tonnes quoted out.
    That really depends on what you want to do on them, we just ordered a system that would blow that spec out of the water for four stations but we want it to be scaleable for 6 or 9 stations and last the distance for more than a couple of years.

    The spec we have gone for is:
    i7 950 CPU
    12GB ddr3 1600 RAM
    2x 500GB HD in RAID 0 (higher density makes them faster and like $10 more than a 160GB)
    2x ATI 5570 Silent GPUs
    1x ASUS MB with 3x PCI-E 2.0 x16 slots
    1x Antec 300 case
    1x Antec 750W 80+ PSU

    The hardware should be arriving shortly and the system should last and be scaleable without major upgrades. The components chosen are also comparitivly low power and low noise making the machine very quiet given its operating environment in the library. With all but the moniters it worked out to just under £1000 which given the mental price premiums we pay here in NZ is quite good.

    If you are wondering about the delay in this (from my last post) it was actually due to pricing going nuts on the socket 13xx chips in NZ for a while and the reasonable ones have only just come down to sane levels again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
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    The spec we have gone for is:
    i7 950 CPU
    12GB ddr3 1600 RAM
    2x 500GB HD in RAID 0 (higher density makes them faster and like $10 more than a 160GB)
    2x ATI 5570 Silent GPUs
    1x ASUS MB with 3x PCI-E 2.0 x16 slots
    1x Antec 300 case
    1x Antec 750W 80+ PSU
    Again, dependant on usage, that looks very much the type of spec I'd go for on an MPS system. Usually I'd have preference for AMD (6-core?) and perhaps less RAM to start with (upgrade later) but then I'd never intend on supporting a 9:1 ratio so it's all relative in the end.
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    went for the bundle solution - HP MS6000 and t100 clients. works well.

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    Take it you've all seen the Multipoint 2011 beta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiqueABoo View Post
    Take it you've all seen the Multipoint 2011 beta?
    No, I knew something was coming up - I was invited to Spain to take part in the conference earlier this week but couldn't attend


    I've got a system tucked away somewhere that I have a MPS2010 license for. Was due to be installed over half term. Might just see the 2011 beta instead...
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