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    Two more free management apps are openQRM | openQRM keeps your data center up and running and Kodiak from BlueBear > Kodiak (don't have any invites, blagged one from a friend).

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    ovirt is also getting pretty close to release stage
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    ovirt will be the default for RHEL/CENTOS/Fedora10

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    Found this post via Google looking for a Xen Veeam equivilant after Citrix upped the ante again - Citrix Systems Products » XenServer/Essentials XenServer

    Only 'Enterprise' features missing now are things like HA.

    Anyway, must get back to lurking. Hope that helps

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    Oooooo..... crispy features!

    Does it really mean free.. or is it still a purchase product as there's a try/buy link on the right.


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    Just signed up and grabbed the ISO and key for the XenServer Essentials...

    The new free Citrix XenServer will be available on March 25.
    You can get started right now, by downloading this software and applying this license key, which will enable the features of Citrix XenServer, PLUS two key features of the upcoming Citrix Essentials for XenServer:


    High availability
    StorageLink technology for NetApp and Dell EqualLogic
    You’ll be able to update your software when the new free XenServer is available by applying a simple update file – and continue to use your virtual machines and XenCenter management sessions.
    Oh yeah baby... two words.... HIGH AVAILABILITY!

    Sold... Downloaded... Burning... About to go on my servers......

    <madEvilLaugh><heavyReverb>mwuahahahahahahahahahah ahaha</heavyReverb></madEvilLaugh>


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    Quote Originally Posted by tsky View Post
    Just signed up and grabbed the ISO and key for the XenServer Essentials...
    Oh yeah baby... two words.... HIGH AVAILABILITY!

    Sold... Downloaded... Burning... About to go on my servers......

    <madEvilLaugh><heavyReverb>mwuahahahahahahahahahah ahaha</heavyReverb></madEvilLaugh>

    Yep, but the 'Citrix Essentials' is the bit you'll need to pay for... so you get live motion for free, but HA and Storage Management will be extra - "Citrix will price Essentials between $1,500 and $5,000 per server and will offer the Essentials package also to the Microsoft customers that are adopting Hyper-V, as part of a renewed partnership agreement with Microsoft (dubbed Project Encore)."

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    Just installed it from the ISO downloaded from Citrix and it is saying HA is available and booted several Virtual Machines in HA mode.... which is reporting fine.



    From what I can see, you get central administration free now with XenServer and they've bundled HA for free in this download....!?

    I just want central management - not overly worried about HA, but this seems to be running HA out of the box as it were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsky View Post
    Just installed it from the ISO downloaded from Citrix and it is saying HA is available and booted several Virtual Machines in HA mode.... which is reporting fine.



    From what I can see, you get central administration free now with XenServer and they've bundled HA for free in this download....!?

    I just want central management - not overly worried about HA, but this seems to be running HA out of the box as it were.
    I think what they're doing is giving you the full xenserver (enterprise) product, but bundle the download with a 'trial' version of two of the features of essentials. HA and storage management will expire unless you buy into the essentials package - the rest will stay fully usable... they should make it clearer though... Still a nice free product, but I've had issues getting Xenserver (standard) to talk nicely to a SAN without jumping through hoops - I will be giving it another go though...

    I await VMWare's response with interest!!

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    Looks like the Essentials part is the bit you pay for, I assume you've got a 30 day trial of the features atm

    Even just the server without essentials looks rather good, just can't run it on my servers without VM extensions on the chip

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    Yeah I think VMWare must be gearing up for a release with more bundled into it...

    I've got this running on an iSCSI SAN using OpenFiler - was pretty straightforward to set up. I'm sold with the central administration now I know it's free.

    Could be an interesting month of Citrix v VMWare v M$ ahead...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsky View Post
    be an interesting month of Citrix v VMWare v M$ ahead...
    As I have said before, I'm making the move from VMWare to M$ here has it (on paper) appears to be the right route for this school. I think virtualisation is the way forward in the server room and I think schools should seriously investigate all three options to determine which is right for their particular environment - it's certainly not a one size fits all technology.

    One thing I have noticed, which is to be expected at this early stage in the technologies proprietary life cycle, there is limited interoperability between environments.

    Centralised management tools are now starting to see the light of day that support all three major platforms and so are a number of third party apps to convert between the various HD file formats (.vhd, .vmdk, etc).

    But it is still a major pain in the to either switch from one platform to another, or worse still run a mixed platform environment.

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    Don't you love the way products change overnight? The feature comparison matrix is available at Citrix Systems XenServer Editions

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