Thin Client and Virtual Machines Thread, VMware ESXi Backup in Technical; Originally Posted by Theblacksheep
Although there are alot of hardware restrictions for ESXi, most normal workstations wont work nor will ...
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11th December 2008, 06:10 PM #16 
Originally Posted by
Theblacksheep
Although there are alot of hardware restrictions for ESXi, most normal workstations wont work nor will many old server.
Luckily our RM Xeons can have ESXi....
Are you sure? I have not come across any.
I have my test ESXi server running on a crappy 3 year old RM P4 3.6 single core Workstation with 2 gig ram?
Butuz
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11th December 2008, 06:15 PM #17 
Originally Posted by
dyoung5
There are a few reasons why I dont want to have the main datastore on the storage server:
- The server is Windows and has 3rd party software loaded. I don't want to start a big debate, but with a much lower footprint and no extra software, ESXi will be more stable.
- We sometimes need to reboot it for updates, etc. This would mean having to shut down our VM server as well.
- It only has SATA disks, whereas our VM server has SAS disks.
I have found a script, which I run to snap the VMs and backup the snaps. But for most of the critical servers I have installed Backup Exec agents because of specific software, i.e. SQL server.
David
Agree with you - the iSCSI server needs to be a dedicated appliance to VMWare rather than a standard Windows server with an add on iSCSI initiator. Much much more reliable. Agree about SATA/SAS too, I would only use SATA disks for back up use or testing, I would stick to SAS disks for a production server.
Butuz
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Thanks to Butuz from:
albertwt (18th October 2009)
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11th December 2008, 06:22 PM #18 
Originally Posted by
dhicks
And if your iSCSI storage server fails...
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David Hicks
Then it's no different to if your local storage had failed. Except that your local storage is tied in to the physical server's raid card, wheras the iSCSI storage is not tied to any server. A big benefit in my eyes.
It's the HDD's that are 99% most likely to fail, as long as your using good reliable SAS drives (not Deathstar's) and are using Raid 5 with hotspare you should get 99%+ uptime.
You want to be using "enterprise" class hardware if your virtualising your whole network - anything by HP/DELL/IBM/Adaptec should be ultra fast and reliable. If your basing your SAN on some kind of Buffalo or Netgear jobby then I guess you'd better prepare for downtime?

Originally Posted by
dyoung5
My thinking exactly. I'm guessing it wouldn't be as risky if we had a propper iSCSI SAN, as they generally have redundant PSUs, controllers, etc. and are more appliance based with less to go wrong right?
Thanks,
David
Yep. Redundant PSU, Redundant interface's, redundant hard drives. Couple that with a same day on site warranty and you should be laughing.
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11th December 2008, 06:30 PM #19 
Originally Posted by
Butuz
Are you sure? I have not come across any.
I have my test ESXi server running on a crappy 3 year old RM P4 3.6 single core Workstation with 2 gig ram?
Heres the ESXi hardware compatability guide:
http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vi35_systems_guide.pdf
Still, if you've got it working on the P4, thats quality!
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11th December 2008, 06:37 PM #20
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21st May 2009, 03:28 PM #21 
Originally Posted by
Butuz
ESXi 3.5 seems to install on any workstation I try it on, it also doesnt sem bothered what storage you use, SATA, SAS, SCSI, etc.
Agree. Never had any issues here
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21st July 2009, 11:52 AM #22 Does EsXpress backup EXSi 4? I've looked on the website but can't see that it does.
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22nd July 2009, 10:30 AM #23
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Hi David
Here is another suggestion for you, I been using lately a mirrored iSCSI target call StarWind, it covers ESXi and every fig else, cheek it
Firs I suggest test the trial starwindsoftware.com/starwind-enterprise-server
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11th August 2009, 07:27 PM #24
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Hello. This tool is also free and it will backup ESXi.
Veeam FastSCP 3.0 for VMware ESX / ESXi - VMware file Management.
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19th August 2009, 05:07 PM #25
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Yes, you can use VCB (VMWare Consolidated Backup) with Backup Exec 12.5 assuming you get the VMWare vSphere 4 Essentials license which comes with the following:
1. vCenter Mgmt Server 4
2. 3x ESX(i) licenses
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25th August 2009, 10:34 PM #26
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Originally Posted by
JamieM
Hi David
Here is another suggestion for you, I been using lately a mirrored iSCSI target call StarWind, it covers ESXi and every fig else, cheek it
Firs I suggest test the trial starwindsoftware.com/starwind-enterprise-server
I've used StarWind and the performance isn't all that great.
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Thanks to midus from:
albertwt (1st October 2010)
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13th August 2010, 06:10 PM #27 esXpress is now in version 4 (re-named PHD Virtual backup for VMware). We also have an ESXi solution on our roadmap with beta coming in September.
We'll also be at VMworld this year so if any of you are going drop by booth #115.
Feel free to message me also for more info.
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albertwt (14th August 2010)
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1st October 2010, 03:54 PM #28
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A good cheap pay product is either vRanger or Veeam
Back up exec just see the virtual machine as a whole vmdk file where as vranger will break it down and allow file level restore etc.
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albertwt (1st October 2010)
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1st October 2010, 06:23 PM #29 
Originally Posted by
CC1010
A good cheap pay product is either vRanger or Veeam
Back up exec just see the virtual machine as a whole vmdk file where as vranger will break it down and allow file level restore etc.
Backup Exec will allow granular restore for a number of OS/Apps as long as the relevant agent is installed on the virtual machine. VMware server licenses include Windows agents for all the VMs iirc.
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Thanks to DMcCoy from:
albertwt (8th December 2010)
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7th December 2010, 03:57 PM #30 PHD Virtual Backup for ESXi, ESX, and Citrix Xenserver (formerly esXpress) is now on version 5.1 as of yesterday.
You can download free trials of they solution here: http://www.phdvirtual.com/solutions
Please feel free to msg me if you have any questions, or would like an online demo!
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