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14th July 2008, 11:22 AM #1
Anyone using HP T5735 Thin Client terminals?
We have some and the supplier seem to be having a hard time locking them down, they say that the old model had some sort of tool kit but HP have now left this support to the open source community (apparently), they run Debian.
We basically want the to boot to a user that can only access the Citrix ICA client and that's all no ability to drop to a cmd shell or control panel options.
Is anyone here using these that can advise?
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14th July 2008, 01:05 PM #2
- Rep Power
...are you saying anyone can simply pull up a command prompt and type
"rm *" and trash the operating system...?
... does it also mean they are not supporting the RDP client anymore, if HP aren't, (and Microsoft certainly don't support RDP on Linux) - who is responsible for developing new versions...?
14th July 2008, 01:31 PM #3
No you can use the FOSS RDP client and Citrix supply their version for Linux. No i don't think they can just trash the box but they can see and play with far to much, apparently there 'was' a GNOME lockdown kit on the old version (i've never seen the old version but the suppliers told me this) but this support doesn't exist from HP for the new version.
This is the first HP TS device i've seen which is why i need someone who has used one for some pointers.
14th July 2008, 01:35 PM #4
I have locked these down... I love them!!!
I'll stick my deployment scripts onto the wiki... check back soon.
Edit: Woops... mine are the t5725
14th July 2008, 03:00 PM #5
That is good news as we are about to end up with a room full
14th July 2008, 03:00 PM #6
OK... there is a wiki page at Altiris Deployment Scripts for HP thin clients - EduGeek.net Wiki and the tar.gz. file that I use is attached to here.
Thanks to Ric_ from:
cookie_monster (14th July 2008)
14th July 2008, 03:05 PM #7
I'll take a look Ric cheers.
14th July 2008, 03:34 PM #8
Ahhh The ones that we have are the T5735 and Novus seem to think they're different to the T5725 and are having trouble with them.
They don't have an problem with the 5725's as they have a few sites running them.
14th July 2008, 03:59 PM #9
All that the script does is copy the text files containing the config. The t5725 files that I have added are slightly different to the t5125 files because they use a different window manager (IceWM). IIRC I just hacked the IceWM config file in the user home directory.
The difference between the files used by the t5125 and t5725 can be seen by comparing the attached archive with that above.
14th July 2008, 04:26 PM #10
I just had a look at the specs and the only thing that I can see being a problem is the graphics card - perhaps ATI use a strange location for their config?
You could always dump the contents of ALL of the config files within /etc and then compare these to the contents of /etc before customisation... echoing to a text file like in the scripts I posted should be sufficient and allow you to compare with simple tools.
14th July 2008, 06:35 PM #11
I'm going to get back in touch with the supplier and find out exactly what they think the issue is.
16th July 2008, 10:23 PM #12
Let us know how you get on.. looking to order a good 2 or so dozen of the 5735's!
16th July 2008, 10:57 PM #13
I have ~35 t5725, but I have flashed several to the debian 4 image (uses gnome instead of ice as before).
I set them to auto login as a restricted user and fire up the connection manager which goes full screen so they effectively boot to a terminal services screen.
The connection manager is configured (as root) to reload when exited, so if it crashes or is closed, it restarts.
There is a shortcut combination that can be used to minimise the screen and give them the gnome desktop, but as a restricted user, they can't do anything with it so not a prob in my eyes.
I also have a few setup the same way which boot to fullscreen kisok firefox which cannot be exited.
Hope the info helps - I think the image is the only difference between the models (it says t5735 on bootup with that image).
17th July 2008, 02:47 PM #14
So are you guys using Altiris Deployment Solution then? apparently a full license is included with each unit.
More importantly do you have to buy the Altiris Deployment Solution?
SO HP the ThinState utility it is then by the looks of it.
Last edited by cookie_monster; 18th July 2008 at 04:19 PM.
22nd July 2008, 02:13 PM #15
HP don't seem to mention power management in the documentation and i can't find a way in Gnome to alter it, currently the unit never turns off but i'd like to set it to turn off if it's inactive. Is there a particular package that i need to get from the repository?
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