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    That's not what i was told this was specifically for external connections which is why i wanted clarification.

    If each student had a copy of office then we wouldn't have an issue right? (but the student version doesn't count)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie_monster View Post
    That's not what i was told this was specifically for external connections which is why i wanted clarification.

    If each student had a copy of office then we wouldn't have an issue right? (but the student version doesn't count)
    yes, if they had a qualifying copy of office for each machine they access the TS from then it would be fine. Student edition may or may not qualify. There's a table somewhere but I can't find the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesleyw View Post
    So you have to buy 1000 licenses even when only 500 users will ever access them at any one time? M$ no kidding!
    And you might not even be allowed to use the licenses on home machines... I'm sure that there's a clause that states that the machine being licensed must be owned by the organisation holding the volume license agreement (i.e. they must be school machines).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    yes, if they had a qualifying copy of office for each machine they access the TS from then it would be fine. Student edition may or may not qualify. There's a table somewhere but I can't find the link.
    The student version needs to be office pro 2007 for student to qualify. This then gives rights to access Office pro 2007 and below (including Office 2003)

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    Right i've not delt with this area of licencing for a while so i'm sketchy at best. Is a Windows External Connector Licence different to a TS External Connector Licence?

    I priced up a Windows External Connector Licence from Pugh (approx 250) and thought we were in bussiness untill someone said i actually need a TS one that cost's much more. (I'm feeling a bit confused, you could take a HND in MS licensing)
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    Arrrggghhhh

    The problem with this is, as a supplier I have spoken to M$ 3 times about this..........

    and got 3 different answers..............

    The really worrying bit is I spoke to the same guy twice 2 weeks apart and guess what.....again different answer.....

    We ended up going to an M$ educational reseller who said do it another way.

    I am now back to being confused.

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    lol this is the problem i'm talking to two Citrix / TS suppliers and they're telling me different things

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    Are any of the resellers or MS licensing 'experts' willing to put anything in writing? I think it would be fair enough to quote a qualified MS licensing expert
    in the event of a school being investigated for license breeches because they would likely look very silly trying to prosecute a school if their own experts say they are licensed.

    edit: I assume the companies giving advice actually have the relevant MS qualification

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    Tell me about. As Sun Ray and SGD supplies it sucks.

    Why you talking to Citrix and not us ????? (tongue nearly in cheek)

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    That would be nice wouldn't it. Ms licencing is deliberatly esoteric i'm sure so they can manage to get more money out of you at a later date once you've aready invested to much to back out otherwise they would just have a straight forward requirements list. Grrrrrrrr


    "Why you talking to Citrix and not us "

    I spoke to a few people and visited a few sites and it seems very good (a bit on the expensive side) but good. We were thinking about 2008 TS but it still doesn't seem to scale well and i just haven't time to investigate 2X. Novus recommended a couple of schools who seemed very impressed with and they seem like a very professional outfit.

    Tell me a bit about your offerings linescanner, if you have any. No rush i'm off now.

    We'll be looking at a 15 client system for the Library just to trial basic apps, Office, IE and a few others with an eye to expanding next year (if we like it, which from what i've seem we will) to a few classrooms and external access for SIMS.
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    That would be nice wouldn't it. Ms licencing is deliberatly esoteric i'm sure so they can manage to get more money out of you at a later date once you've aready invested to much to back out otherwise they would just have a straight forward requirements list. Grrrrrrrr
    Bring on Linux on the Desktop. All this hell goes away

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    "Bring on Linux on the Desktop. All this hell goes away"

    You never know hopefully, i actually see TS as a product that MS are placing to combat Linux's (possible) dominance of low spec hardware, but we'll see.

    Hopefully Ubuntu can start making in roads.

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    I would love to see it.

    The shift will come when ISVs start writing good edu software that runs cross platform.....and not just web

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    i actually see TS as a product that MS are placing to combat Linux's (possible) dominance of low spec hardware
    you can't be serious, MS's latest TS offering requires vista or XPSP3 for TS - it doesn't compare to the system requirements of the competitors, we're running an entire thin client site on an 9MB OS (which conceivably runs on a p120) .

    The shift will come when ISVs start writing good edu software that runs cross platform.....and not just web
    but what incentive do they have - the current situation is that every time MS release a new OS, the vendors get to sell a new version of their software for the latest MS release - or worse - they force an MS upgrade on schools because of incentives from their MS partnership.
    Now if only a govt agency would support Schools specific content development on open source implementations.
    Personally I think the key will be web based resources, particularly VLE resources - some of the commercial offerings are surprisingly interactive already.

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    but what incentive do they have - the current situation is that every time MS release a new
    OS, the vendors get to sell a new version of their software for the latest MS release - or worse - they force an MS upgrade on schools because of incentives from their MS partnership.
    Now if only a govt agency would support Schools specific content development on open source implementations.
    Personally I think the key will be web based resources, particularly VLE resources - some of the commercial offerings are surprisingly interactive already.
    Nail and head Sir

    not just web based but platform independent apps

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