64-bit Terminal Services anyone?

[cookie_monster]

Just a small diversion here but how many of you run TS on a 64 Bit box to avoid the kernel memory issues? Just wondering about the expence of sizing the server.

[Ric_]

Just a small diversion here but how many of you run TS on a 64 Bit box to avoid the kernel memory issues? Just wondering about the expence of sizing the server.

I want to run x64 Windows on my Opteron machines. Citrix is supposed to run immensly fast in 64-bit mode... just a shame that we still have ancient 'educational apps' which are definately going to need thorough testing before I can make the change

[cookie_monster]

Ah "ancient 'educational apps' ", that's exactly what i was thinking about.

I assume that sticking to Office, I.E. and more mainstream apps and you should be ok?

How many clients can you run from a decent spec 32-bit box (generalising)?

[localzuk]

I'm currently investigating a terminal server to use our soon to be 'replaceable' machines and am pondering the same question myself.

What I've decided on is that anything 16bit is going to be unavailable on the terminal system, but available elsewhere on fat clients. And then it is just a case of how well things work on a 64 bit server os. I think I may well end up going 64bit - simply to allow for growth on the box.

[iatkinson]

We've got 6 terminal servers serving approx 140 thin clients. 5 are running 64bit, 1 on 32bit.

[cookie_monster]

Anyone know of a company that offers TS solutions i've found a couple that offer Citrix and funnily enough they say TS isn't upto the job. I'm looking for a company that has experience of TS that can give us an informed opinion.

Option 2 is to just set one up and try it myself. I know that you get a trial period but after that what are the licencing requirements?



@ iatkinson , what apps are you running on the 64 bit boxes and what sort of issues have you come accross.

[Netman]

Anyone know of a company that offers TS solutions i've found a couple that offer Citrix and funnily enough they say TS isn't upto the job. I'm looking for a company that has experience of TS that can give us an informed opinion.

Option 2 is to just set one up and try it myself. I know that you get a trial period but after that what are the licencing requirements?

I'm looking at this at the moment - the choice looks to be between Sun and native TS on 2008 (Citrix licence costs suck:P)
I am speaking to a local company who we have used in the past who are offering consultancy and support in setting up TS2008.
They are called Deverill and interestingly are a Citrix reseller as well, but have advised me that TS2008 may be more suitable for my needs - let me know if you want their contact details...

[Ric_]

@cookie_monster: Citrix experts are generally TS experts too due to the way Citrix sits on top of it. Depending upon your requirements, they will advise you suitably... at the end of the day there isn't a lot of money in it for them selling you Citrix licenses.

Novus Networks are a reputable company that I use - Julia Jones on 01260 292500 should be able to help.

[cookie_monster]

Are these links to the correct companies?

http://www.deverill.co.uk/home.aspx

http://www.novus.co.uk/

Thanks.

[Ric_]

The Novus one is right.

[Netman]

Are these links to the correct companies?

http://www.deverill.co.uk/home.aspx

http://www.novus.co.uk/

Thanks.

Yep - so is the deverill one...

[cookie_monster]

and Novus are just over the hill as well, very handy.

[cookie_monster]

Anyone know anything about these?

http://www.2x.com/

[Geoff]

I've heard of them. The are occasionally mentioned in Linux Journal.

[cookie_monster]

@ Netman: "Citrix licence costs suck"

I've been told that the first year is expensive (i think you buy the licence) then after that you pay an upgrade protection subscription which is about a a third of the price. Is this the case?

Cheers.