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    I "believe" that Hyper-V is a free download which will be available as a download within 180 days of the official RTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan400007 View Post
    MS also provide a whitepaper detailing the trade offs about running your DCs in a virtual environment.
    Do you have a link to that at all?

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    With regard to Virtualization hardware - have people bought any yet? If so, what are you using?

    I presume that you have two virtual servers in case one fails plus a SAN plus backup.

    Also, I've been told not to virtualize SQL products, but I know for a fact that some people are, so how has that gone?

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    BTW, just a heads up. Hyper-V is broken for non-US locales in W2k8 Server RTM.

    http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/0..._localization/

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    Oh, I heard that it wasn't included at all. I wonder if people are installing the BETA on it?

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    Also, I've been told not to virtualize SQL products, but I know for a fact that some people are, so how has that gone?
    It's been fine here on an old installation of CMIS/SQL.
    The rule of thumb is that if the server is very high load, (actually look and see if it is) esp lots of disk read/writes then it's not an ideal candidate for virtualisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit View Post
    With regard to Virtualization hardware - have people bought any yet? If so, what are you using?
    I have a couple of virtual servers. Not really pushing the boat out with them yet. One is hosting Nagios on Ubuntu. Another is running a server for our IT dept. Basically hosting fireworks helpdesk, Altiris and OpenFire. I'm going to gradually push the limits of our host server to see how much i can run and see if i can de-commision any of our other servers.


    Quote Originally Posted by eejit View Post
    I presume that you have two virtual servers in case one fails plus a SAN plus backup.
    You dont necessarily need a second server set up, you could move your Virtual servers onto any machine(s) with VMWare on it. I.e. your Beefy Server goes bang, you could move the images of your virtual machines onto several workstations as a short-term measure.
    You dont *need* a SAN, but if you dont use one be aware that your Virtual Servers Storage is dependant on your hosts storage. A SAN would certainly help.

    Backup is essential. Best option is to be able to back up the virtual servers via the host rather than individually. This would mean you could be back up and running in a matter of minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by eejit View Post
    Also, I've been told not to virtualize SQL products, but I know for a fact that some people are, so how has that gone?
    SQL products will be very memory intensive as well as having lots of disk access. If you are using a SAN the disk space / access isnt really an issue. If it's a beefy server and you can allocate several GB of RAM and 2 virtual CPUs, to the Virtual Server it should cope.

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    Cheers Lee, that was a great post.

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    Here the whitepaper from MS on running DCs in a virtual env. Its based on Virtual Server 2005 but the principals apply to all.
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Quote Originally Posted by eejit View Post
    Cheers Lee, that was a great post.
    Share the love and click the thanks button then ;-)

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    How much does it cost to buy VMware or Virtual server software???

    Thanks

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    Virtual Server software is free - Microsoft will get you on the additional server licences once you install the virtual servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee_K_81 View Post
    Share the love and click the thanks button then ;-)
    Ooops, never even noticed that before. I have a few people to thanks then.
    Cheers

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    VMware server is free as well.

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    Didn't know that CyberNerd. You have to pay for the ESX stuff though?

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