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I have in my first year of studying at uni part time whilst working full time. I have ...
9th October 2009, 09:36 PM #1
SQL & PERL....
I have in my first year of studying at uni part time whilst working full time. I have an assignment on the horizon which will involve me knowing SQL and PERL.
Can anyone offer any pointers as this will be very new to me. I have books on order and have been consulting such websites as sqlcourse.com and I am using Notepad++ as the text editor, but would really like to know a lot more info about the back end..end of things, as in how to actually view the end result of what you have put in......the GUI end I guess.
Any suggestions or pointers would be most welcome.
9th October 2009, 09:46 PM #2
Have a look at Perl Express as an IDE with built-in parser/viewer.
9th October 2009, 10:11 PM #3
Cheers for that. I'll check it out now.
9th October 2009, 10:35 PM #4
What sort of thing is the assignment going to ask you to produce? When you say "GUI" do you mean client-side GUI or HTML output? The important thing to remember about SQL is that is based on set mathematics - you might want to revise (or learn) your A-level stuff on sets before you start. Don't neglect the database design at the start, don't just start programming and hope for the best. That said, once you've got the design stage out of the way skip the large step-by-step textbooks and just pagefault on knowledge - any time you don't know what to do, type stuff in to Google and figure it out.
Originally Posted by acrobson
 You'll be told what one of those is next year.
9th October 2009, 10:42 PM #5
Originally Posted by dhicks
I am studying Computer Forensics and 'Ethical' Hacking; it is to design a forensics analysis and retrieval tool. Basically, something which you can run to get information off a PC which otherwise may take hours or days and give a nice pretty GUI to view it in and not change any of the logs etc to keep it forensically sound.
As for GUI, I want something, that when I'm type the SQL, I can run 'it' and see if flags up any errors and then go back amend it 'it', run it again and see whet it comes out like. If that makes sense?!?!
9th October 2009, 10:44 PM #6
Ah, for a MySQL GUI have a look at HeidiSQL. Type your queries, run them, view results, see errors, and save them as snippets.
9th October 2009, 10:49 PM #7
Looks spot on that, I shall take a look once I have finished my 2000 word assignment on 'echnology advancements since 1969'. I'm really interested in forensics and all things security wise, that's my 'area' sort of thing, just never had the chance or oppurtunity to turn my hand to programming.
Originally Posted by webman
Got to start one day I guess!
10th October 2009, 09:42 PM #8
That's a brilliant expression! In computer terms, page faults are kind of bad but people who can "page fault on knowledge" are showing advanced skills :-)
Originally Posted by dhicks
10th October 2009, 09:44 PM #9
I am looking at getting an academic version of MS Visual Studio from my course provider. Would this be any good you reckon?
12th October 2009, 01:09 AM #10
But not mine: it was coined by Joel Spolsky, as co-presenter on the Stack Overflow podcast. It neatly sums up the way that people actually work these days, and in some cases how some computing courses are now being taught - know your basic theory, but when it comes to specifics just stick the relevant keywords in to Google and figure it out as you go along. These are, after all, computers we're talking about here - most of "programming" these days involves working with a bunch of assorted processor architectures / OSs / languages / APIs, generally a selection of all of them all at once. Very little involves anything not created by human beings someplace, designed by someone with the intention of being easy (or possible, at least) to understand. It's not "real" science in the sense of unlocking the secrets of chemistry / physics / etc.
Originally Posted by srochford
12th October 2009, 01:16 AM #11
What is it you're trying to get a nice GUI tool to show you? The results from an SQL query? Do you have a database that is that complex, or do you just need somewhere convenient to write lots of results so you can process them later? Perl isn't a Microsoft language, although I'm sure Visual Studio either handles it or can be set up to do so, but I get the impression that if someone is giving you a Perl exercise to do they might be intending that you get used to writing (and debugging) terminal applications. If you have a simple database design to deal with it might be worth trying to picture the results of an SQL query in your head before using a GUI tool, so you have the hang of what you're doing for future reference.
Originally Posted by acrobson
6th November 2009, 06:19 PM #12
- Rep Power
PerlMonks - The Monastery Gates
and; your life long friend; CPAN
cpan have almost all modules available for perl, although you can write your own perlmodules;
if your lazy like me and can't be bothered say, writing the base64 tables module for unrealircd, then yeah =) all there! (now THAT was boring when i had to write that )
even good old freezethaw!
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