anyone recommend a company? i think ive heard of a company called ThinkSafe??
anyone recommend a company? i think ive heard of a company called ThinkSafe??

I looked into offsite backup but concluded we couldn't possibly due to the amount of data to bandwidth ratio.
If yuo could do it I'd just hire a server somewhere. rackspace or sumfing.

Are you looking into using an internet link to upload your backup to a remote site or are you talking about tape vaulting where they turn up and pick up your tapes?
Ben
were looking at internet link
Turn up and pick up your tapes? I just take one home! (...sometimes)Originally Posted by plexer

Regularly swap tapes with a neighbouring school? If they take one of yours, you'll store one of theirs?
Of course, this assumes you have encrypted backups or other methods in place to ensure data security and due diligence under data protection.

For a while a mate of mine worked for the Human Genome Project, at MRC they said it was *faster* to put the backup tapes in the post to the US than it was to trasfer the backup over their (stupidly fast) internet connection to the US. 8O
This is not the perfect off site backup solution but this is what I have done. I bought a Buffalo TerraStation and located it in a building on the college site that is away from the rest of the site. The building is connected by 1 gig fibre and I backup to it every night. The Buffalo TerraStation is in a comms cab in that building so its locked away from anybody who fancies a little play. As I said not perfect but it works for me
my setup is a bit like edie209
ive got machine setup at the other side of the building, everything backs up to there,
once a week i copy the main backups to a external harddrive and store this off site (well in the boot of my car)
recently our local lea support (Ediss) have started trialing a backup solution for SIMS mainly aimed at the primary schools coz there renowed for not taking there backups off site. basically every evening the sims backup is ftp'd to them.
the main problem with any backup that involves human interaction ie taking things off site is that people forget.
What are the implications as far as a member of staff taking a backup off-site? a tape in the boot of my car or portable hard drive, what happens if it gets stolen, data protection etc?

Probably not what you want to hear, but true offsite DR backup services can be very expensive, especially if you have a lot of data which needs to be copied quickly.
Similar to edie209, we have a 'DIY' DR server with half a dozen big SATA disks in it at the end of a 1gb fibre link to our sports hall. We back up around 200gb a night, to disks called MONDAY, TUESDAY, etc. We also backup MIS data to tape every night & every 1/2 term backup user data to tape which goes into a media rated fire safe. The user data on tape is kept for 2 years.
We also use SECONDCOPY for user data, copying to another server in the main server room. This is handy for when the students accidently delete files!
I know of a proffessional system that uses rsync which backs up 250Gb per night over a net connection - some scripting involved to copy over previous nights backup so that the difference is small [as rsync just updates changes] and lots of verifying of data.
Using rsync here to backup a linux web server (runs Moodle). Only about 1Gb of data or so though.
www.sitesolutions.com they are great. I use them for but of the server centre they have there. very secure, and reasonably priced. I would have probs recommending them.Originally Posted by CyberNerd
A quick comment about all this off-site and remote backup stuff. Don't forget to back up the Operating System and AD on a regular basis too.
The number of times I've been into a school to find really secure copies of the data, but no backups of the AD infrastructure is frightning.
Also - a backup is only as good as the restore - so test em regularly.... please!
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