CCTV Solution 20+ Cameras and recording server etc

[RabbieBurns]

What kind of price should we be looking at for a system like this. We will most likely use our own network infrastructure and just create a VLAN for the CCTV..

We've been quoted about $150k (£100Kish) for an ad hoc solution put together by a local company...

HAs anyone used Indigovision? Theyve been recommended to me and i see from their website they are used by some schools in london and bromly?

Education Solutions - IndigoVision, IP CCTV, IP Camera, IP Video, Network Video Recorder, Video Management Software

[dhicks]

What kind of price should we be looking at for a system like this.

At a very rough guess, £200 per camera (a decent off-the-shelf model, weatherproof, decent image quality in both daylight and night and capable of power-over-ethernet operation) and maybe £3000 for the storage server. I'd make my own, but I know that QNAP devices have a specific facility for CCTV footage storage, so that might be a good option if you can't make your own file server. You'll then have to install the cameras and connect them to your network - you might be able to do that yourself, or you could hire a contractor to do that for you (nothing complicated, just drilling and screwing). If you use PoE cameras you'll need PoE-capable switches, midspans, or PoE injectors at appropriate points. Depending on how much you simply do yourself, under £10,000 should be quite manageable.

[jinnantonnixx]

If you don't mind rolling your own solution (or at least buying the parts separately) you might want to look at Synology's offerings. They make Linux NAS machines which have surveillance systems built-in. (No lock-in to a particular IP camera)

Recording Surveillance DSM3.2 Synology Inc. Network Attached Storage - NEW NAS Experience

[zag]

QNAP Nas + a load of wireless POE cameras should do the trick.

[SYNACK]

QNAP Nas + a load of wireless POE (Power Over Ethernet) cameras should do the trick.

Huh, sounds convoluded

[zag]

haha oops yes, forget the wireless bit. Far too unreliable!

[RabbieBurns]

Not looking to do this on a shoestring by any means and want as professional solution as possible, I dont mind providing POE access and a VLAN for the cameras.

Interestingly, how does a wireless POE work? It sends the power over wifi?

[ben604]

Not looking to do this on a shoestring by any means and want as professional solution as possible, I dont mind providing POE access and a VLAN for the cameras.

Interestingly, how does a wireless POE work? It sends the power over wifi?

I think he got his terms mixed up, you can't do wireless PoE!

I'd go for Mobotix cameras. You can record to SD cards IN the camera and only use network bandwidth when you want to review the footage or back it up (over the internet or your network). The image quality is excellent and you can get day/night cameras too.

[RabbieBurns]

We've got a 10gb fiber network so the bandwidth isnt an issue. Need something a bit more professional than SD cards in cameras, needs to record to a server and have at least a fortnight of retention of recordings.

Ive got in contact with the Indigovision folk hopefully they will have a sydney presense. Was hoping someone from the UK schools who used them might frequent here or know of a school that did.

[ben604]

Mobotix offer, arguably, the best image quality of any CCTV solution on the market, they're absolutely professional. If you've got a 10gb fiber network, then send the recordings to a $5k storage server running the industry standard Milestone recording software and you'll still save $100k.

[plexer]

Milestone Essentials will cater for up to 26 cameras before you need to upgrade to one of their other versions.

We run it here with 17 cameras on a dell 1u rackmount with 1TB storage drive and that archives footage for 21 days we are going to be upgrading the storage though.

As it only records on movement what you store is a lot less.

Ben

[SpuffMonkey]

We've just had IndigoVision put in with about 70 cameras on it - it seems to be ok so far - but we haven't had any training yet - so am not using any of the features yet.

[RobFuller]

I use a 8TB QNAP surveillance box (QNAP Systems, Inc. ( Products - Surveillance ) - Quality Network Appliance Provider) for recording from 12 Axis HD camreas including audio, very impressed with image quality and most importantly, very easy to setup. All POE powered, got our local cabling company to install the cameras I just done the final tweaking, all in about 5k.

I have been looking at the Mobotix 180 degree cams's, is the image quality good then for people who have them setup?

Rob

[Jamman960]

We've gone for a QNAP system along with Sony SNC-DH160 cameras

[mb2k01]

We have just put in a Samsung solution called iPolis - see SAMSUNG TECHWIN CCTV
It's very good so far. All web-based linking back to a NVR.
As it's web based you can delegate responsibility and allow staff direct access if they need it.