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Physical Security Thread, CCTV Solution 20+ Cameras and recording server etc in Technical; Originally Posted by mb2k01 We have just put in a Samsung solution called iPolis - see SAMSUNG TECHWIN CCTV It's ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mb2k01 View Post
    We have just put in a Samsung solution called iPolis - see SAMSUNG TECHWIN CCTV
    It's very good so far. All web-based linking back to a NVR.
    As it's web based you can delegate responsibility and allow staff direct access if they need it.
    Interesting, and they have a local Sydney partner as well which is a bonus. How many cameras / what kind of prices if you dont mind sharing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    Interesting, and they have a local Sydney partner as well which is a bonus. How many cameras / what kind of prices if you dont mind sharing?
    We have about 25 cameras and 1 NVR.
    Price is an interesting one - I designed the solution, but didn't have pricing(!)
    It was part of a new school build where the M&E contractor had the original remit, before I pointed out we'd be better off with an IP based system rather than old style BNC stuff!
    I believe the cameras were around 250-300 though. I'll do some more digging and confirm later

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpuffMonkey View Post
    We've just had IndigoVision put in with about 70 cameras on it - it seems to be ok so far - but we haven't had any training yet - so am not using any of the features yet.
    Any chance of divulging what kind of price range that setup has cost you please?

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    QNAP system is also web based though you do have to load a plug-in into the browser!
    But what I most like is when our Head (yes it’s that easy) wants to save the video she’s found, the downloaded file is just a .wmv so no complicated codecs.

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    Milestone XProtect here, with AXIS cameras.. got around 70, all running on 21 days archiving, on two 4Tb arrays attached to the server(s). Good performance, easy interface. Should come in under your budget easily with only 20 cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    Interestingly, how does a wireless POE work? It sends the power over wifi?
    Obviously, same as Power Over Fibre ;-}

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    I would like to recommend Milestone as well. Its completely vendor neutral and very easy to manage / set up. We use Bosch IP Day/Night cameras and they run at 540i and are PoE.

    Simon

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    AirVision | Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. looks interesting.

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    Sorry for the thread divert but we currently have around 30 Mobotix cameras here, recording directly to 3 snap nas boxes.
    All of this is done through the cameras settings, no additional software.
    Due to the poor performance when retrieving footage using MxCC we are looking at Milestone & Mirasys to hopefully improve things.

    With Milestone, instead of the camera recording/retrieving directly from the NAS boxes does the milestone software do this?

    Thanks
    John

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    The AirVision system is quite a revalation and extremely cost effective as HD Cameras go and as Im a Ubiquiti lover to you would expect me to say that.
    But, like most things Ubiquiti what has been released so far still needs alot of refinement.
    The Cameras are incredible and cheap but still 24v passive PoE. They have excellent Low light capabilities but no IR so you need to add night illumination and for 20+ cameras recording in 720p HD needs some serious back end computing power and storage if you intend to record much at these resolutions.
    It's got huge potential but is going to take them a while to iron out the bugs and bring it to the masses.

    Like the Mobotix solutions, HD CCTV brings with it other challenges, storage, processing and retrieving what you want from terabytes of data can be a real nightmare, so it still seems like we will be juggling with resolutions, NVR's and playback software for a few more years yet. Watch the demo Ubiquiti AirVision Demo - Streakwave.com - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturgeo View Post
    Sorry for the thread divert but we currently have around 30 Mobotix cameras here, recording directly to 3 snap nas boxes.
    All of this is done through the cameras settings, no additional software.
    Due to the poor performance when retrieving footage using MxCC we are looking at Milestone & Mirasys to hopefully improve things.

    With Milestone, instead of the camera recording/retrieving directly from the NAS boxes does the milestone software do this?

    Thanks
    John
    Milestone takes the stream from the camera and records it which along with it's database provides you the functionality of being able to search footage.

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben604 View Post
    I think he got his terms mixed up, you can't do wireless PoE!

    I'd go for Mobotix cameras. You can record to SD cards IN the camera and only use network bandwidth when you want to review the footage or back it up (over the internet or your network). The image quality is excellent and you can get day/night cameras too.
    and what happens if someone breaks/steals the camera itself? you've no idea who, cos they've stolen the evidence...

    may sound stupid, but i've known it to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbutcher View Post
    and what happens if someone breaks/steals the camera itself? you've no idea who, cos they've stolen the evidence...

    may sound stupid, but i've known it to happen.
    You've got plenty of options actually. If you have the bandwidth, stream the lot to a server, or do full frame rate at the camera while recording to a server when movement is detected at a lower framerate, like 3fps. Either way, they give you flexibility.

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    We've installed our own using a QNAP box and a number of YCam bullet cameras - they're great as they come as waterproof external cameras with built-in night vision. Very easy to configure, very reliable - stunning picture quality, too - like watching TV!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturgeo View Post
    Sorry for the thread divert but we currently have around 30 Mobotix cameras here, recording directly to 3 snap nas boxes.
    All of this is done through the cameras settings, no additional software.
    Due to the poor performance when retrieving footage using MxCC we are looking at Milestone & Mirasys to hopefully improve things.

    With Milestone, instead of the camera recording/retrieving directly from the NAS boxes does the milestone software do this?

    Thanks
    John
    John,

    Your best bet if using milestone is to set up the cameras to record locally and archive off to the NAS boxes. We only keep 6 hours locally, then archive off to NAS storage - as we are using a single raided NAS, we use "Dynamic Paths", which pretty much means each camera is set by default to "Dynamic" and uses \\UNCPath\Storage\ (defined in the app, not per-camera) then the camera's MAC address.

    In your setup you would choose where each camera archives its data (if using multiple NAS boxes), as opposed to setting them all to Dynamic.

    Hope this helps,
    Si

    Edit - We keep only 6 hours locally, this can be adjusted to archive off as frequently as you like (Minimum of once per 24hrs).
    Last edited by Psymon; 29th November 2011 at 04:47 PM.

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