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    Hehe lol.

    We use Salto and that costs approx £260 per door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    What's the sort of cost per door roughly? I've raised this at our place that as part of our refurb program we are about to start we should fit this style of system onto all new / replaced doors but I get shouted down that its far too expensive.

    I asked for it on IT Room Doors as a priority instead got all matched keys on them of which about half a dozen have gone missing and people still forget to lock the darned doors....

    I may just stick it on the Server Room and my Office Door anyway and be high-tech and you never know one day it may then spread as how hard can it be to fit yourself....
    With our local security companies, they come in about £700-800 per door, including all installation costs. But there's no reason you couldn't get trained in how to install the system yourself and then you'd just need the kit which you can get direct from Paxton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    With our local security companies, they come in about £700-800 per door, including all installation costs. But there's no reason you couldn't get trained in how to install the system yourself and then you'd just need the kit which you can get direct from Paxton.
    :O I can buy an entire door and frame and have it fitted for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    :O I can buy an entire door and frame and have it fitted for that!
    Consider the cost of having to replace an entire master key set of locks when someone loses a key.

    Also, if you wanna do it yourself, you can probably get the kit for about £500.
    Last edited by localzuk; 3rd April 2011 at 09:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Consider the cost of having to replace an entire master key set of locks when someone loses a key.

    Also, if you wanna do it yourself, you can probably get the kit for about £500.
    True to a point, a well designed key based system, Euro Cylinders can be had for about £12 a cylinder, and the most locks to change, again if designed right, should be no more than 25 - 35 thus your not making major savings using that over the keyed methods, but yes there is a time saver loose the token and then just delete it rather than collect and re-issue keys etc....

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    The master keys for one of our master suites are about £40 each.

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    The master keys for one of our master suites are about £40 each.

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    Is that per cylinder? If so, scale that to, say 30 locks. And then add in the, say 50 keys needed too. Now consider that staff lose their keys quite often. It is an expensive exercise. Most schools would also pay their security company to do the swap for them too.

    Not to mention the time where the rooms are vulnerable between loss and replacement.

    Or, you can go to a computer and click 'lost token' and voila, secure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    The master keys for one of our master suites are about £40 each.

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    Rucko by any chance?

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    Schlage

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    The problem we tend to have with tokens over real keys is triviality. That is to say tokens are so trivial and un-key like that users don't report them lost, preferring to make sure they arrive at a door with someone else than going through the hassle of getting another token issued. I'm open to ideas for making users treat tokens with the gravity they would real keys.

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    We also use Paxton Net2 great system and the cards and fobs are not that expensive either and in one of our buildings we have had them put on both end of the corridors on the bridge the old sixth form entrance and all suites and reception doors and it works great never any problems with it.

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    Yea cards are soo much less hastle than keys, we have both here oddly as the card system wasn't considered realiable enough so some doors are card, some key, some both! Arrghh.

    Anyway does anyone know a FM system which will do both cashless catering and door control on one system? would love to ditch one server and have as many things intergrated as possible.

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    +1 for Salto locks here. They work great!

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    Another for SALTO. Had it in for about four months now and SLT are looking to add more this financial year.
    They now do a wireless cylinder so we no longer have to pay fitting, plus you can literally roll the system out overnight!

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    They do rim and euro cylinder and there is also a padlock on the cards. Don't think they are wireless are they? Using salto svn I think.

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