+ Post New Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 20 of 20
O/S Deployment Thread, WDS vs WAIK vs MDT vs SCCM? in Technical; To be fair, the length of time may be due to my aging network.. and Adobe CS3!! so lets cl ...
  1. #16

    Gatt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    6,678
    Thank Post
    861
    Thanked 650 Times in 431 Posts
    Rep Power
    499
    To be fair, the length of time may be due to my aging network.. and Adobe CS3!! so lets cl it even at 40mins..
    As for the installation method - I don't use a reference pc to create a flat image file,
    Everything is installed "new" from SCCM - literally everyting - the OS, Apps are packaged into SCCM (either as MSI's or Silently installable EXE's where available), Drivers, WSUS udpates can be pushed out

    I can create different Task Sequences for different types of install (I use 3 - Pupils, Teachers and Admin Staff) -

    This means that if a new version of an application - eg flash or java JRE - is release, I can package it into SCCM and add it to the task sequences, without having to create a new WIM file all over again
    Existing deployments can also get the new version via Software Distribution..

  2. #17

    Gatt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    6,678
    Thank Post
    861
    Thanked 650 Times in 431 Posts
    Rep Power
    499
    If you're just starting out then I'd recommend maybe going for mdt to get used to task sequences - it's a slimmed down version of sccm...

  3. #18

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    S.E. Kent
    Posts
    8
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0
    Can I use SSCM in a basic way fairly quickly or will it take Months to learn it ? ok just seen your 2nd post will try that first.

  4. #19

    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    California
    Posts
    137
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts
    Rep Power
    12
    MDT/SCCM are fairly easy to learn. A lot of the terms are different compared to your past experience probably but the system makes sense logistically and you become acquainted with it pretty quick. I love MDT and I am looking to go to SCCM soon to manage my machines very soon (hopefully before summer).

  5. #20

    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Doncaster
    Posts
    4
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    0

    Serious response to old thread but an honest one

    Quote Originally Posted by qcomer View Post
    MDT/SCCM are fairly easy to learn. A lot of the terms are different compared to your past experience probably but the system makes sense logistically and you become acquainted with it pretty quick. I love MDT and I am looking to go to SCCM soon to manage my machines very soon (hopefully before summer).

    I work in a large Secondary in South Yorkshire around 1200 systems including curriculum laptops and desktops. Number grown significantly since 2004. When I arrived in 98 deployments involved Windows 98/NT CD (later on XP) office cd, memorising product keys and running from computer to computer. All our systems were networked. Oh yeah it needed plenty of patience and generated frustration. We were a net ware School at this time.

    We bout zen works and I bought a £70 netware 4 book to learn netwre4/zenworks. The most expensive book I ever bought was also the heaviest, thickest and took the longest to read. However once read setting up and deploying os via zenworks was a piece of cake. All said even taking into account the £70 book (out of my pocket) it paid for it self many times over in time saved from how we were doing things.

    This worked well for a year and then as the government threw money at us we bought more pc's and thus needed more Netware licenses. However Netware had decided they didn't need us and the pricing of the upgrade to netware 5 and additional cal's werea rip off.


    So Advanced Server 2000 was the route we were forced down. Much cheaper on server and cal licences and of course much tighter server / desktop integration.

    So we looked at Ghost but too £££ for us so RIS which was free was what we used. Simple to setup, easy to use and reliable at deployment too. The only gotcha was with the nic .inf file. Get the right one or edit your own and happy days.

    Until threw more money at the school and we had to get best value so now had varied hardware from multiple vendors and thus multiple images which soon grew into a full time task to maintain.

    The buggers threw e-vouchers at the school and allowed departments to spend them on software they never sorry always use and that now had to be deployed so more growth in apps and gpo's to push them out which resulted in ear bindings about how annoying it was that application x that installed once (per machine) at startup meant that they couldn't use the machine for teaching and that deploying to 30 machines a 100mbit network was a no no we ended up using lunches after school etc installing apps .

    Other stuff didn't get done our ears got bent even more. We got SMS 2003 which is now config manager 2007. Initially we used RIS to boot the os deploy env but quickly moved to WDS.

    Over the years we moved to a single XP image across our broad range of hardware of a wide vintage. We have added in all th os in between and added hundreds of applications many of which we had to engineer our own msi's for as the authors couldn't manage anything but an exe for their crap vb or java based educational software. It's better now but educational software was the worst I have ever come across for reliability / ease of installation and deployment. They just assumed that you were installing to a single pc that you always had full admin right for and that you never ever installed other application or updates ever. They expected exactly the same if you were installing on 30.

    Once company who's product cause me untold grief was Nelson Thornes. It was part of a package of ks3 science software and textbooks. If you installed a different version of flash, java or any other software it would stop working. I wrote a ripping letter to them and my line manager about how poor that particular software was and they admitted it was poor and that the folks who had written it for them had been asked to make changes to it but they wouldn't.


    Anyway with Vista onwards it's heaven (or xp with the unsupported Hal switcher script) its deployment heaven. build your own list of install instructions per room (task sequences) to partition, format hard drive. Install os with key. Install drivers from a bank of drivers already imported into Configmgr. Install Applications and then shut down. All from a simple edited list of steps that once created is your customised imaging checklist per room.

    New systems? Import any drivers from the supplier driver cd if they're not already used in another image somewhere. Pick the os to be deployed and add the list of software you want installed. Name the task sequence and advertise it to a collection or group of your new pc's that youhave manually added into configmgr along with their mac address and you're done!

    Configmgr will install in a couple of hours. Then you gradually customise configmgr to make it work how you want. The more you expect the longer it takes to customise but once you are happy with your customisation it becomes very easy to maintain. Task sequences can be duplicated in a mouse click. Edit to customise and bang you've got a dedicated setup for a particular room or department.

    You can do a lot more with configmgr too. Asset management, reporting (ie how many of my pcs have less than 512mb of ram and which ones are they?) App deployment Patch deployment. Remote Control clients, search all your systems for a specific file.

    Well, I was intending a quick reply and ended up typing all this apologies. Oh and I still have the £70 netware 4 book if someone wants to buy it. Can't face throwing that money away and maybe one day when all the fossil fuels are used it can keep me warm.

    Andy

    All the comments are my own personal opinions and do not reflect the position of my employer or anyone else.

  6. 2 Thanks to adunlop:

    camel (29th March 2012), Sam_Brown (28th March 2012)

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Similar Threads

  1. mdt & wds
    By browolf in forum Windows
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 10th March 2012, 12:33 AM
  2. Zero Touch MDT SCCM
    By oxide54 in forum O/S Deployment
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 9th January 2011, 03:38 PM
  3. MDT/WDS is doing my head in...
    By Sirbendy in forum O/S Deployment
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 15th October 2010, 03:36 PM
  4. [SCCM 2007] Setup SCCM 2007 with MDt 2010 and WDS
    By Gatt in forum O/S Deployment
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 7th November 2009, 11:19 AM
  5. WAIK, WDS, WSS3 released
    By thom in forum Windows
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 17th November 2006, 08:12 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •