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    Re: What no Linux posts?!!!

    I run AD, Linux, Apache, Bind, MS DNS, IIS 4, 5, 6 my team supports a site supporting IE, Mozzila, firefox, enterprise firewalls, linux iptables firewalls protecting 100+ networks. I have implemented linux as an intranet server, samba server, Proxy server, filter server, and external web server vhosting 80+ web sites (now moved to IIS6). I have implemented MS Proxy2, wingate and ISA 2000 amonst other things so I have some experience in these fields.

    Extensibility - from a point of view of developement Microsoft APIs and their documentation are fantastic. The range of products available is immense. Try to implement Linux to replace AD. Go on... give it a go. Your brain will be bleeding with effort before you can get basic functionality. I know I have been there

    MS AD has out of the box integration for ALL its server products. ISA Server and IIS both support integrated authentication for its proxy and web users on an intranet for IE users for example.

    Linux can support these protocols but its a far cry from what MS can do and again effort to reward ratios are way tipped towards M$.

    If Linux is ever going to start competing with M$ it needs to

    1. Implement some decent management tools
    2. Standardise its goddam config files back from the 1970's to be XML (which will make point 1 soooo much easier)
    3. Integrate its products better.
    4. Get some decent backup support (I dont include NetBackup)

    Cachepilot? Oh god sounds like a relative of Netpilot. The noise of the netpilot starting up (beep, beep bip beep, beep bip beep, beep bip) still haunts my dreams. Ack gad - cack.

    </rant>

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    Re: What no Linux posts?!!!

    Try to implement Linux to replace AD.
    Thats the wrong approach. Linux isn't Windows and you shouldn't attempt to force it to be. You will fail.

    MS AD has out of the box integration for ALL its server products. ISA Server and IIS both support integrated authentication for its proxy and web users on an intranet for IE users for example.
    Woe betide the man who attempts to intergrate something non-MS. They don't exactly make it easy do they. Which neatly leads us to...

    Linux can support these protocols but its a far cry from what MS can do and again effort to reward ratios are way tipped towards M$.
    Took about an hour at Carr Hill.

    Implement some decent management tools
    What about Webmin? Plus I've always found remote command line access more than adaquete for any management task.

    Standardise its goddam config files back from the 1970's to be XML
    At least I can hand edit flat text files. I can't think of a good reason how this change would be positive. Am I missing something?

    (which will make point 1 soooo much easier)
    Non-sequitar.

    Integrate its products better.
    Well thats down to the distro maintainer. If you don't like how your current one is doing it then try someone else. If your still not happy, do it yourself.

    Get some decent backup support (I dont include NetBackup)
    I use Partimage personally. Its basically Ghost for Linux.

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    Re: What no Linux posts?!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box
    Almost every school in Lancashire has a Linux server. Its called a Cachepilot. For those not in Lancashire, we had a project and placed one of these into every primary school and any secondarys that wanted one. For free. Cos' we're great.
    It's just a lot of secondary schools route 'round it 'cos the GUI is badly designed and there is a distinct slowing in Internet connectivity (something you don't want from a web cache!!!)

    I like Linux though - I admit my skills are relatively limited but simple administration I can do. I have a plan to 'recycle' a few machines into Linux servers after I roll out my thin client solution - I've noticed several nice looking SFF toshiba machines that could be put in a big stack (just need to replace them first).

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    Re: What no Linux posts?!!!

    As we can see, people can be quite opinionated about Linux and, as with any other OS, there are pros and cons.

    I'm going to lock the forum and can we keep the rants/debates/arguments to a minimum in future?!?

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