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    Linux Security Advice Needed

    Hi Guys,
    Advice needed please.
    Our SMTs have decided, in there wisdom, to allow a group of students to setup a video streaming server on the school's network as a project. They will be setting up a Suse Linux box to do this and will ,of course, have to use the school's (Microsoft) infrastructure to stream to classrooms.

    Now, I know jack sh*t about Linux. The SMTs know even less. I don't want to leave a potential open door into the school's network.

    can I tap your collective knowledge to come up with enough reasons to put before the SMTs to stall the project until I have time to at least get my head around Suse a bit.

    Any advice about potential security or other issues greatly received.

    Cheers,
    Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuarte View Post
    can I tap your collective knowledge to come up with enough reasons to put before the SMTs to stall the project until I have time to at least get my head around Suse a bit.
    It's just a server on your network, just give them a machine and leave them to get on with it.

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    I think the fact that you're not in a position to ensure they are working safely on your live network is reason enough. Set them up a switch and a couple of machines in isolation perhaps? Or use Windows Media whatsidoo and its streaming services.

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    As long as you don't give the students root access (they must ask you if they want any software installing) then I cant see it being too much of an issue. If you can isolate it on a separate network and open limited, logged traffic to and from it, so much the better.

    Don't fear the linux though

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    It's just a server on your network, just give them a machine and leave them to get on with it.

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    have you ever used a computer before? Really useful, thanks........
    Last edited by Stuarte; 22nd January 2009 at 11:38 AM.

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    we've got a linux video server on the network, it's just another computer on the network. teachers use it to stream video, and it runs a webserver. thats it.

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    Thanks CyberNerd. But yours isn't administered by students, right?

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    Thanks CyberNerd. But yours isn't administered by students, right?
    no, but what difference does it make?
    I understand why you might be worried about the security of your windows network - but linux isn't going to harm it any more than a windows computer will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuarte View Post
    have you ever used a computer before? Really useful, thanks........
    Let's not troll, please. David has a very good reputation and is very knowledgable (though that doesn't mean I agree with his comment).

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    I was just trying to ask a question. I am not a pro Microsoft anti Linux head. I just don't yet know much about it yet and was genuinely asking for advice to fill a gap in my knowledge. Thanks to those that have replied constructively.

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    Actually, this is a really important issue.

    Allowing non-MS equipment into certain setups can really cause some issues.
    (In Lincolnshire at least) some of the school systems setup by NetLinc's agents (ramesys I think) have things like full open shares on the server. These are then restricted by policies applied when logging onto the domain.
    So if you're using windows boxes and policies it's fine, no-one can see those wide open shares....
    This will then screw you over as soon as people bring their own laptops in, but use their network login to browse the network. Or even worse using Linux or Apple kit which also show hidden shares by default!!

    To be honest, if they've suggested using Linux themselves, then they're probably just harmless geeks. In which case it might be worth some of your time sitting down and going through it with them. You'll learn some cool stuff about Linux and they might learn why they can't just chuck it on the network...
    I'd also make one of the provisions of the project that you get a root account on the box..... Just in case

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickboy View Post
    (In Lincolnshire at least) some of the school systems setup by NetLinc's agents (ramesys I think) have things like full open shares on the server. These are then restricted by policies applied when logging onto the domain.
    Then this is stupid.

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    Agreed, but you just try going in and securing a live system like that without having any issues!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickboy View Post
    To be honest, if they've suggested using Linux themselves, then they're probably just harmless geeks.
    It's very likely, yes

    I'd also make one of the provisions of the project that you get a root account on the box..... Just in case
    Better than that, keep root to yourself and give them sudo access.

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    I got suggestion say yes to project on condition that your are part of project (you learn together) and that s part of the project terms they have to setup a secure server.

    If you take part in project with them you will learn with them.


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